2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1
#21
UNGAH! This thing sounds fantastic and goes like stink. I think I prefer it to the Z06 surprisingly.
Mr. EG, the ZL1 is not the super track focused car, but I am sure it can't hold it's own. I am not sure what they will do as far as the next Z28 goes. The last Z28 had LS7 from the C6Z, but obviously using the LT4 that would create some overlap here. I don't think a track focused Camaro would work without some kind of engine upgrade over the base Camaro. I am sure GM could work some more power out of the LT1 but so far, they haven't.
I guess they could use the LS7 again, wouldn't be out of the question...
Mr. EG, the ZL1 is not the super track focused car, but I am sure it can't hold it's own. I am not sure what they will do as far as the next Z28 goes. The last Z28 had LS7 from the C6Z, but obviously using the LT4 that would create some overlap here. I don't think a track focused Camaro would work without some kind of engine upgrade over the base Camaro. I am sure GM could work some more power out of the LT1 but so far, they haven't.
I guess they could use the LS7 again, wouldn't be out of the question...
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#23
The LS7 being a Gen IV small block probably means it's not compatible with the new Gen 6 Camaro Alpha platform that is designed to use Gen V small block (and other new generation V6 and turbo 4). I'm guessing it's not worth it to GM to engineer in the capability to drive the older style ECM, wiring, fuel pump, etc. of the "old" engine in their new platform just for one low volume model. Pretty sure LS7 is done for that reason alone. Last Camaro was already running Gen IV engines, so using the LS7 in that care made sense.
Heck - put the LS7 in the new C7 GrandSport and call it a day. That'd be an amazing machine.
#24
That's a damn good idea.
#25
Originally Posted by JonBoy
The LSx and LTx blocks are very similar, dimensionally. I don't think it'd be any problem to drop the LS7 in the new Alpha platform. I just think it's an "old" engine so they won't use it anymore. Would love to see it, though!
Heck - put the LS7 in the new C7 GrandSport and call it a day. That'd be an amazing machine.
#27
I still think GM should do a 5.5L V8 NA that makes 550hp and revs out to 8k or so. You know they have the technical knowledge to do it, just as Ford did with the GT350 mill. Put that in the Z/28 and cut some weight and make it a track monster. For the C7 ZR1 (still nothing concrete on this car), lower compression on the 5.5L, put in absolute bulletproof forged internals, add twin turbos, and make 750hp that spins to 7,500rpm or so. Hell yeah. I'd get one.
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Originally Posted by fusionchickenleg' timestamp='1458683890' post='23916483
True, especially given the GT350's absolute lack of torque below IIRC 3500rpm, probably feels like a dog off the line in normal day to day driving
This gave me a stiffy
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Originally Posted by CMK' timestamp='1458745843' post='23917107
[quote name='fusionchickenleg' timestamp='1458683890' post='23916483']
True, especially given the GT350's absolute lack of torque below IIRC 3500rpm, probably feels like a dog off the line in normal day to day driving
True, especially given the GT350's absolute lack of torque below IIRC 3500rpm, probably feels like a dog off the line in normal day to day driving
To be fair, Ford isn't even providing factory 0-60 numbers for the 350 and 350R, most likely because they'll make the Camaro seem faster for the same reason you've stated.