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2017 FK8 Honda Civic Type R - 7:43.80 at the Nurburgring - reclaims fastest FWD title

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Old 04-25-2017, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyDeVito
They did Fanboi. What model have they released here worth a damn in the performance realm? This is a good step for them, this R, but geez it looks like some teenagers designed the body.
well. the type R is faster than a new M3 around the Ring. I'd say that's pretty good.
the body style isn't "mature" but that's subjective.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy
NSX and Type R? NSX is "worth a damn" (0-60 in 3s, 1/4 mile in low 11s) and the Type R is the fastest FWD car on the planet (around a track), apparently.

If that isn't at least a good start, I don't know what is...
all their products are late!
Old 04-25-2017, 02:11 PM
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"Waaa, waaa, they're late"

They're here. Get over it.
Old 04-25-2017, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy
NSX and Type R? NSX is "worth a damn" (0-60 in 3s, 1/4 mile in low 11s) and the Type R is the fastest FWD car on the planet (around a track), apparently.

If that isn't at least a good start, I don't know what is...
Sales of said NSX are not good. Overly complicated car for no reason. I call that a failure.

This should sell even though it looks like it was designed for a Transformers movie, and fail wheel drive. The fastest front wheel drive car means something to you and Honda, few else.
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^and sales is the main thing most manufacturers target when producing a car. This one happens to be pretty cool while doing it

I don't understand all the pessimism around honda/FWD - this shouldn't be shocking. It's like ragging on porsche for their rear engine layout, FWD econo-turned-sporty cars has been Honda's forte since the early 90's. Fastest FWD means little to me, but faster than other performance cars which boast their numbers and at a lower cost is cool and shows the result of good engineering/technology.

In regards to drivetrain preferences, I understand most enthusiasts like RWD, but how many people on this forum bought their S2000 new from the dealership or would buy a brand new "FR" sports car from Honda for 45-50k now? Point is, many people express their preference but very few would actually be customers. Like all other manufacturers, Honda needs to sell cars.

I agree with the styling, nothing close to pretty. I was very put off by the looks of the new civics at first, now they are more tolerable at certain angles.
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Originally Posted by rob-2
all their products are late!
Would you have bought the nsx if it had come out sooner?
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Although the Focus RS is all wheel drive, how do well you think the CTR would do against it in the ring?
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Originally Posted by circuitclub
It's like ragging on porsche for their rear engine layout, FWD econo-turned-sporty cars has been Honda's forte since the early 90's. Fastest FWD means little to me, but faster than other performance cars which boast their numbers and at a lower cost is cool and shows the result of good engineering/technology.
Not really the same, with the big difference being that the heavier and more powerful a car gets, the more limiting a FWD layout becomes. You can only do so much through 2 tire contact patches.
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Originally Posted by Purple Haze
Although the Focus RS is all wheel drive, how do well you think the CTR would do against it in the ring?
In perhaps a less formal test (since it wasn't conducted by the manufacturer), it ran an 8:06. Surprised it wasn't closer to, or even under, 8:00.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...st-113604.html
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I love the mechanical feel and high revving Hondas of the past, but this new Type R is bad@ss too. I mean, that time is crazy fast. FWD? Eh, sounds like they dialed out the torque steer. Gaudy body? Eh, to me, it's just that annoying rear bumper, which I can easily get over. Assuming I like driving it as much as I anticipate, I'll probably be in the market for one.
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