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Old 03-06-2018, 01:09 PM
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Surely the VW gti has been reviewed many times...these are my impressions. My friend just bought a new 2017 SE with the DSG, no other options, no nav. The infotainment system is superb, cutting edge and easy to use with your iphone. Makes my 2016 bmw I drive look stupid and needlessly complex.
The shifts of the dsg are quick, and it annoyingly creeps forward if you let your foot off the gas. the interior is all golf with an occasional upgrade of some type and feature added to the base car. He has what was known as the performance pak, extra 10 hp and trick front diff with bigger brakes. The performance pak is a mandatory option.... and standard on the 2018.The car corners well, give it gas mid corner and it spins the wheels and takes off, pulling you through the corner....no torque steer anyplace. From what i can see of the 2018 it's an over all upgrade on every level to this car. Not unlike the focus st. This is a good competition for the focus st.

This is an easy car to drive.... you can spin the front wheels easily, traction control is every present...its also VERY practical. back seat, well better to fold down and use as hatchback. His is the 5 door .

He is getting 25 plus mpg on regular and will try super on the next tank, surely there is an advantage to using super? The interior is very functional although it shows it's econo car heritage. the power is wonderful, no turbo lag, plenty of torque up to about 45 then you can perceive the power waning a bit. 0-60 about 6.5 seconds, and it comes on strong from just about anyplace on the rev band. Great self leveling headlights. Nice backup camera. seats, are just ok and leather in this trim. Fender sound system is great...sub woofer in the trunk inside the donut spare, comes with a first aid kit and road hazard kit standard.

I have little more than curiosity in this car....If interested I would investigate and opt for the golf R or at the least the autoban model with all the good stuff...certainly the manual is an improvement as well.... It's a nice car, not for me , but a nice car. Better interior than the focus for sure.
Old 03-06-2018, 01:18 PM
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I'd take a base model GTi- I don't really want any frills, but a big engine in a small car- I was suitably impressed with the it at the 2018 NAIAS.

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26mpg is low based on what I observed with mine. I routinely saw mid 30's on road trips and 28-30 on my normal commute.

Great daily driver. I do not think the Golf-R is worth the money. It's basically a spec sheet car that's not worth an extra 10k in terms of driving experience over a GTI, but if you want to say you have an AWD top-spec VW, then sure.
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You quote 6.5 0-60 with DSG but the mags get 5.7. I love the car and am thinking of getting into a 2018 in late summer and trading my 3 series for a daily driver.

I am not sure about prior years but the powertrain is 6-70 on new models and when that wears out, about $500 for a decent flash and you have 300+ hp without much work. It was a very fun little do-it-all car when I drove it.

The biggest downside is if you like the manual, the stock clutch is prone to failure and does not hold much beyond stock level. If you want to flash a manual car, you have to spring for a new clutch probably sooner than later.
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IMO, the 6spd clutch is weak... but you can easily work around it if you remove the restrictor in the slave, remove the spring on the pedal, and give the clutch time to fully seat before getting back in it.

I put >30k miles on mine with a tune / downpipe and towed a trailer with two motorcycles for over 10k of that. Zero slipping.
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I had read that the dsg was the stronger of the two transmissions. I'm as much of a stick purist as the next guy, but for a dd car that will likely see soul crushing California traffic, I think the dsg is the prudent choice here, especially if you have a fun stick car for the weekends.
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Agree on the DSG, if I were to buy another one I'd get a DSG.
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The base model is the best deal in sport compacts in this country, far and away. With the discounts dealers are offering it's a no-brainer. Plus, those cloth seats are stylish, grippy, and HEATED.

If I had to do it over I'd probably get a DSG. The 6MT isn't great, and after driving the S2000 it's borderline terrible. Honestly that seems to be par for the course these days.
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