2019 Miata press event
07-23-2018, 08:15 AM
#41
Community Organizer
Yeah I mean I agree, but for people like s2000junky who's brains only work in numbers and BIGGER is BETTER, 220whp after thousands of dollars of mods is underwhelming. Ask that dude what he thinks of making power N/A. Actually, don't, for all of our sake.
07-23-2018, 08:16 AM
#42
Community Organizer
220 whp, normally aspirated? Ain't no one adding 50% more power unless they're doing a complete motor build with a totally new crank, lighter pistons and con rods, improved valvetrain, upgraded fuel system and a bunch more other stuff. You're talking about a race motor, essentially.
07-23-2018, 08:26 AM
#43
NA power is for the weak DUDE.
07-23-2018, 08:32 AM
#44
Community Organizer
Agreed man. My friend has a 16 that he's modified with full bolt-ons and a tune that makes around 170whp. To me, it felt more than quick enough, especially considering it's a Miata. It lacks the drama of an S2000, but I mean come on.
07-23-2018, 08:49 AM
#45
Thread Starter
I don't know what is not to love about that. I liked my S2000, it was an extremely well built, high quality machine. But they don't make em anymore.
07-23-2018, 08:56 AM
#46
Within reason yes. A well sorted 2600lb500whp wide body S2k with a good tire width/compound is pretty hard to beat in the right hands. The disadvantage of the S is no sophisticated driving aids, so its going to require someone that can drive. I appreciate that of course being a driving enthusiast. Your not going to be able to spec out a ND to that level. Great cone dodger though.
And yes it does. 14 years of ownership and experience giving back to the s2k community, not the miata community.
And yes it does. 14 years of ownership and experience giving back to the s2k community, not the miata community.
Time marches on, as does technology. Many hardcore racers have left the S2k platform, and will continue to do so.
07-23-2018, 09:18 AM
#47
I'll bite, just because this is entertaining and bringing me tons of joy. You're so contradictory and grasping at straws. Let's say you had the most well sorted S2k money could buy/build, you most likely would get your a$$ handed to you by an SS 1LE. All by a car that'd be cheaper and under warranty. It will continue to run laps while the S2k would be broke down most of the time.
Time marches on, as does technology. Many hardcore racers have left the S2k platform, and will continue to do so.
Time marches on, as does technology. Many hardcore racers have left the S2k platform, and will continue to do so.
Last edited by s2000Junky; 07-23-2018 at 09:32 AM.
07-23-2018, 09:31 AM
#48
I agree technology moves on, but at the end of the day its still just physics. Driving aids and quick shifting high tech transmissions and running gear all give some advantage to the bottom line on lap numbers because some cars have reached a level where great driving cant quite level the playing field. But last I checked, the ND doesn't have such features, its still a game of power to weight and grip ability and what the chassis can hold/accommodate for higher level modification increase. And to the original simple point, the S2k picks up where the Miata leaves off there. I'm not a hardcore racer, just a tuning/driving enthusiast that appreciates owning one of the last pinnacle of performance "drivers" cars that I can flog around the track and still embarrass cars with a much higher price tag and lap time expectation. I can see the S keeping me entertained for the rest of my life. I'm on my second one now after 14 years of ownership and just recently threw 5k at it on a custom wide body and a few more suspension upgrades for it. That's exciting to me. I don't see anything and certainly with current car trends in technology that would be as much a joy to own/drive. Sorry i'm not that excited about the prospects of a new Miata.
07-23-2018, 09:36 AM
#49
07-23-2018, 09:37 AM
#50
Thread Starter
I agree technology moves on, but at the end of the day its still just physics. Driving aids and quick shifting high tech transmissions and running gear all give some advantage to the bottom line on lap numbers because some cars have reached a level where great driving cant quite level the playing field. But last I checked, the ND doesn't have such features, its still a game of power to weight and grip ability and what the chassis can hold/accommodate for higher level modification increase. And to the original simple point, the S2k picks up where the Miata leaves off there. I'm not a hardcore racer, just a tuning/driving enthusiast that appreciates owning one of the last pinnacle of performance "drivers" cars that I can flog around the track and still embarrass cars with a much higher price tag and lap time expectation. I can see the S keeping me entertained for the rest of my life. I'm on my second one now after 14 years of ownership and just recently threw 5k at it on a custom wide body and a few more suspension upgrades for it that allow me to really get further into the chassis tuning. That's exciting to me. I don't see anything and certainly with current car trends in technology that would be as much a joy to own/drive. Sorry i'm not that excited about the prospects of a new Miata.
I am not getting rid of my Cayman, I love that car, and probably always will.
It is fine to find "the one" that is the perfect car for you in every way, but I still appreciate new cars too and what they have to offer. When I got a motorcycle,(which has since been sold) I wanted about 5 different bikes because they are all very different in character. I am that way with cars too.