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Old 05-29-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy View Post
So, another insider (who has given a lot of accurate information over the years) says:

GT3-style aero package
Lose front eMotors
ICE 600-650 hp and rear eMotor 50hp
3300 pounds (give or take)

In which case, it'd be a pretty crazy car with power/weight similar to a Ford GT.
If that’s correct and price is ~200k....I would say it’s my next car most likely.
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Old 05-29-2019, 03:19 PM
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$200k... it's just not worth that.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:47 PM
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$200k... it's just not worth that.
I disagree.
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:21 PM
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God I hope it doesn’t sell well so I can buy one for $50k off sticker later...
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:55 PM
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Official specs not out yet and rob-2 has already dismissed it.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by S2020 View Post
Agreed about the new NSX being lesser than the old one.

However, there's another force at work to make the new one a market failure: Market force.
in 1990's, there was one competitor for the NSX, the 348. One can argue about the 911TT so perhaps there were two.
in 2016-9, there were 458/488, Huracan, 650S, 570S, GT3, 911TT, GT2, R8, i8, AMG-GT, and some others.

When one buys a high-end car, (s)he desires a certain cachet and NSX has to compete in a market flooded with choices. All of the other marques arguably have higher name status than Honda/Acura. If I were in the market for a high-end sports car, I would not look at the NSX unless it's heavily discounted.
Well there lambos, merc SLs, porsches, etc but the cars sucked. Honda came in and disrupted that market.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy View Post
So, another insider (who has given a lot of accurate information over the years) says:

GT3-style aero package
Lose front eMotors
ICE 600-650 hp and rear eMotor 50hp
3300 pounds (give or take)

In which case, it'd be a pretty crazy car with power/weight similar to a Ford GT.
What's the point of the rear motor if it's only going to chip on 50hp, but I can see it contributing to torque. Nonetheless, isnt this Honda essentially saying yeah we overdid it originally for nothing?
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Old 05-31-2019, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy View Post
Official specs not out yet and rob-2 has already dismissed it.
Called it on the first attempt to do this right. Folks at Honda should really just call me. They keep getting this all wrong.
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Old 05-31-2019, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect View Post
What's the point of the rear motor if it's only going to chip on 50hp, but I can see it contributing to torque. Nonetheless, isnt this Honda essentially saying yeah we overdid it originally for nothing?
Adding an electric motor to give gobs of torque at low rpm allows them to tune the engine with larger turbos that will provide top-end power with a small sacrifice to low-end torque from the ICE.

50 hp is nothing to sneeze at and it adds 109 ft-lbs of torque at 0 rpm, which is very helpful. Also, since it's integrated between the transmission and the engine, it'd be difficult to remove without having to do a ton of design work and creating a bespoke transmission.

3300 lbs and 650-700 hp is hardly a losing proposition.
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Old 05-31-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect View Post
Well there lambos, merc SLs, porsches, etc but the cars sucked. Honda came in and disrupted that market.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/16/...0000-discount/

not it sure if Porsche, Lambo, MB, etc are worried about losing 30 sales/year each to Honda.
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