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Old 12-27-2017, 07:53 AM
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I've always use 93 I did feel an increase in durability while commuting the same distance during college.
Old 12-27-2017, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HawkeyeGeoff
Lol all you're buying is detonation protection; on a car that isn't boosted.
The car is boosted. Two liter turbo from the factory. And I am not "buying into a myth" if I track my mileage religiously and observe the changes between gasolines. Like I said, I might get the same result with 91 that I get with 93, and 93 is probably overkill,(the gas station near my home does not sell 91) but when I drop from 93 to 89 I do see a significant difference, every time, and I was hoping not to. Both in the way it pulls on the top end, and almost 15% drop in mileage. Every time I feel like putting in the 89 I will sure enough get a tank at 26 mpg. I have no idea how the ecu is programmed but I would not be surprised if it advances the heck out of timing on the 93 octane, and when fed 89 overreacts to a ping here or there and pulls a bunch back out. But it does what it does.

My wife's NA Mazda 3 does not care what you put in it and gets about 39 mpg just about every tank.
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
I thought he meant 250k miles without incident. I could be wrong.
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I can't even remember owning a car that didn't take 91+ so I just don't think about it.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:19 AM
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I see Chuck's post above. Pardon my dumb question, but, what exactly is the Honda spec re gas for the S? Where is it stated? And, is it a "recommendation," or is it "required?" It all seems a bit murky.
Old 12-28-2017, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rpg51
I see Chuck's post above. Pardon my dumb question, but, what exactly is the Honda spec re gas for the S? Where is it stated? And, is it a "recommendation," or is it "required?" It all seems a bit murky.
From the 2001 Manual:
Your Honda is designed to operate on premium unleaded gasoline with a pump octane number of 91 or higher. If you are unable to find premium unleaded gasoline, you may substitute an unleaded regular gasoline. The engine will compensate for the lower octane, but you may notice a slight decrease in power as a result. We recommend gasolines containing detergent additives that help prevent fuel system and engine deposits.
Looks like it's just a recommendation, probably because Honda can't "require" owners do anything.
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I used 87 octane on my cammed Integra LS (non-VTEC). It had the stock low 9.2:1 compression so no reason to switch up to 91+ as that would have just led to a less efficient burn, not more. Was making 100hp/L and never had an issue.
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Never understood why most stations sell 87, 89, and 93. Most cars I've owned which ask for higher octane ask for 91+, 89 is essentially useless and 93 is overkill. Anyway, my $.02 on the matter....
Old 12-28-2017, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lookstoomuch
Never understood why most stations sell 87, 89, and 93. Most cars I've owned which ask for higher octane ask for 91+, 89 is essentially useless and 93 is overkill. Anyway, my $.02 on the matter....
The reason cars only require 91 is because some states (like California) don't get 93. I have noticed a trend of high performance cars being tuned for 93 recently which means those of us without access are probably getting slightly less power than advertised.
Old 01-03-2018, 12:43 PM
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Switched to 91 by accident in my 2005 Civic several years ago. Car immediately ran smoother and made less noise while getting slightly better MPG. Haven't used a lower octane since then, regardless of whether or not the motor requires it.
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