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Which car was a bigger achievement for Honda?
01-15-2015, 04:28 AM
#2
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A lot changed in the 10 years between the NSX was released and the S2000 was released. I feel like in all, the NSX was a more risky and revolutionary vehicle than the S2000.
01-15-2015, 06:07 AM
#3
It's gotta be the younger brother. Bringing an affordable 2 seater roadster with similar performance (if not better) than the halo car at literally a fraction of the price + drop top goodness is way too good to overlook.
Yes, the NSX was amazing. Yes, it was a crowning achievement in sports car history - but the NSX is not a supercar. It's just a sports car. And in that same breadth the cheaper, more lively, more affordable S2000 wins the day by offering the same and more, for a lot less. (I am not anti-NSX)
Yes, the NSX was amazing. Yes, it was a crowning achievement in sports car history - but the NSX is not a supercar. It's just a sports car. And in that same breadth the cheaper, more lively, more affordable S2000 wins the day by offering the same and more, for a lot less. (I am not anti-NSX)
01-15-2015, 06:11 AM
#4
Registered User
I think they were aimed at very seperate things. Taking into regard the time in which each was conceived and released, the NSX was more revolutionary as it was a real breakthrough in engineering and was aimed at the German Kings of the Road.
01-15-2015, 06:54 AM
#5
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Achievement to me would equate to sales, so in that regard, the S2000 was/is.
The NSX made the Italians (Ferrari) realize the Japanese could build a proper sports car that was livable day to day, but the Italians have still won the argument thus far as they beat the NSX's sales figures by a lot, granted over three models for Ferrari (348, 355 & 360).
The NSX made the Italians (Ferrari) realize the Japanese could build a proper sports car that was livable day to day, but the Italians have still won the argument thus far as they beat the NSX's sales figures by a lot, granted over three models for Ferrari (348, 355 & 360).
01-15-2015, 07:01 AM
#6
People who vote the s2k are simply being too prejudiced. Let's provide some perspective. The NSX was literally a class leading sports car when it came out, and honda cemented itself as a world class engine builder. VTEC was revolutionary at the time.
While I love the s2k and think it's a far better VALUE than the NSX, it's hard to say the s2k was a bigger achievement imo. It basically took what it learned over the 90's, and built a kick butt RWD roadster/sports car.
Sales figures don't mean a whole lot if you ask me. Ferrari has a LONG history, which gives them a big leg up. Buying an NSX would be like a woman who wears only Hermes bags buying a Coach purse. Just isn't gonna happen.
Ferrari is a status symbol, NSX, not so much.
While I love the s2k and think it's a far better VALUE than the NSX, it's hard to say the s2k was a bigger achievement imo. It basically took what it learned over the 90's, and built a kick butt RWD roadster/sports car.
Sales figures don't mean a whole lot if you ask me. Ferrari has a LONG history, which gives them a big leg up. Buying an NSX would be like a woman who wears only Hermes bags buying a Coach purse. Just isn't gonna happen.
Ferrari is a status symbol, NSX, not so much.
01-15-2015, 07:39 AM
#7
While the S2000 was a bigger sales success--(by that standard, any Civic/Accord/etc. was a bigger achievement as it sold more.)
The NSX revolutionized the super-car industry, celebrated Formula One, Ayrton Senna's ghost came back to hand build the car, blah blah blah.
The bigger achievement will go to the NSX.
While this week, everyone's going on and on about how Ford showed up Honda/Acura at the Detroit Motor Show (agreeable), this was exactly what Honda did to Ford back in 1989 according to this article: AutoWeek, NSX @ 25
The NSX revolutionized the super-car industry, celebrated Formula One, Ayrton Senna's ghost came back to hand build the car, blah blah blah.
The bigger achievement will go to the NSX.
While this week, everyone's going on and on about how Ford showed up Honda/Acura at the Detroit Motor Show (agreeable), this was exactly what Honda did to Ford back in 1989 according to this article: AutoWeek, NSX @ 25
As the public relations department went over its lines, Tadashi Kume, then-president of Honda and an instrumental figure in Honda's Formula One efforts, presided. The people from Honda America were acutely aware that the Big Boss from Japan, Kume, rarely made a stateside appearance unless it was for something serious. Next door, Ford was in the middle of a full-on press conference. Honda kept its rehearsal respectfully quiet.
While the executives busied themselves with the presentation, Kume sauntered over to the red-and-black prototype on the stage. He climbed in.
Either the keys were already in the car, for one reason or another, or he put them in.
He cranked the ignition.
The engine sparked to life, then it roared as Kume proceeded to rev to redline -- right in the middle of the Ford conference. Everyone was shocked. "Mr. Kume, stop it!" yelled Kurt Antonius, Honda's spokesman emeritus, gesticulating wildly. "They're gonna hear this!"
- See more at: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news....AeGZcgGk.dpuf
While the executives busied themselves with the presentation, Kume sauntered over to the red-and-black prototype on the stage. He climbed in.
Either the keys were already in the car, for one reason or another, or he put them in.
He cranked the ignition.
The engine sparked to life, then it roared as Kume proceeded to rev to redline -- right in the middle of the Ford conference. Everyone was shocked. "Mr. Kume, stop it!" yelled Kurt Antonius, Honda's spokesman emeritus, gesticulating wildly. "They're gonna hear this!"
- See more at: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news....AeGZcgGk.dpuf
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01-15-2015, 12:58 PM
#9
There are not so many innovative technologies or trickle down technologies on the S2000 as there were on the NSX. S2000 is a nice car, a strong competitor in its segment, but let's be realistic here...
