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Old 04-28-2010, 09:46 AM
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Seems like its doing very, very well in Japan...basicaly putting Honda back in the black! From autoblog:

"Honda has officially joined the ranks of automakers like Kia and Ford by posting solid profits during the fourth quarter of the company's fiscal year. The Japanese automaker managed to see profits rise by 28 percent compared to the same period last year, thanks largely to increased hybrid sales. The announcement marks the fourth-straight quarter of profits for the company after seeing a rare operating loss at the end of March, 2009.

Sales in Japan have been bolstered by sales of the incredibly popular CR-Z Hybrid. Earlier this month, Honda announced that it had received over 7,000 orders for the two-door hatchback, which accounted for over half of the models the company had set aside for sale in its home market.

Honda also attributed its quick recovery to the fact that its lineup is comprised mostly of fuel-efficient vehicles – something buyers in a global recession have been quick to appreciate. Analysts also point to a healthy dose of cost-cutting measures as bearing credit for the rebound, too. Based on the good news, the carmaker hopes to see its growth continue through the rest of 2010."
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Why in other market the CR-Z has back seats ane not in U.S.?

What is it like they don't think we can fit in the back seats?
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They know we can't fit in the back seat.
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I see one of three things happening:

It sells slowly so they give the US version a little more power just to get by and it makes about a five year run in the US.

It totally flops and is taken out of the US market in just a few years and they do nothing to bump the power.

They use the chasis to drop in a K20 to please folks like us and it becomes a hit.


The third one is least likely. But I am one of the people who thought the RSX was an almost perfect little car, and the TSX is (was) a great little car. Both offered a little of everything for a very good price. But neither was a huge market success.
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I remember the original Insight - lots of hype, initial success, but at the end of the day, it was too small, too slow. Not sure about price though.

From what I've read the CR-Z is an below-average car in terms of performance, I'm not sure that the novelty will last, and for the price, many people will likely want more room at least imo. But, people buy Smart Four-twos, so people will buy CR-Zs.
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Thank you saki, I thought I was the only one who thought this is a more of an original insight replacement vs. CRX.
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An other flop, brougt to you by the whimpy green Honda.
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Originally Posted by The Hoth,Apr 29 2010, 06:35 AM
Why in other market the CR-Z has back seats ane not in U.S.?

What is it like they don't think we can fit in the back seats?
Why? Because most American are fat ****** slobs and that includes the children. Have you gone to a mall or walked the streets of any major city? Fat slobs everywhere. The average American fat slob will at more seconds to the already snail pace 1/4 of the CR-Z.
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Originally Posted by vader1,Apr 29 2010, 06:57 AM
I see one of three things happening:

It sells slowly so they give the US version a little more power just to get by and it makes about a five year run in the US.

It totally flops and is taken out of the US market in just a few years and they do nothing to bump the power.

They use the chasis to drop in a K20 to please folks like us and it becomes a hit.


The third one is least likely. But I am one of the people who thought the RSX was an almost perfect little car, and the TSX is (was) a great little car. Both offered a little of everything for a very good price. But neither was a huge market success.
Pretty sure the Insight is a bust. I predict the same for the CRZ. Throw a K20 in there and now you have a different story. No one wants a car that is that ****** slow.
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Originally Posted by The Hoth,Apr 29 2010, 06:35 AM
Why in other market the CR-Z has back seats ane not in U.S.?

What is it like they don't think we can fit in the back seats?
Same with the Rx-7.
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