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Old 04-28-2010, 05:52 PM
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First head to head comparison and Alice has once again made an ass of himself.
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Originally Posted by Steponme,Apr 27 2010, 02:15 PM
That white CR-Z is very nice-looking!
Look how massive the nose is on that car? Totally out of proportion. You can't have a huge front overhang and no rear overhang without any negative design consequences.
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Originally Posted by Steponme,Apr 27 2010, 05:15 PM
That white CR-Z is very nice-looking!
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Originally Posted by Fred62,Apr 28 2010, 03:21 PM
The Cliff notes

MB = "[an] unlikely mix of economy, performance and deft handling."

Honda = "a deeply appealing package for its style and verve."

The MB is the slowest car in there and probably the heaviest, and probably up to 50% heavier than the CR-Z. The day I'd believe that such a heavy and slow sedan is more fun than a small, tossable coupe is the day I'd stop posting on here. It's also the day I'd believe a Lexus LS430 is more fun than the Miata.

Well, this U.S. publication begs to differ with that review (regarding the CR-Z's handling): http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/car/u.s....2011-honda-cr-z
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And you've driven neither of them. The opinion of whoever wrote the article is that the MB E200 CDI was more fun. Right, wrong? It's an opinion. Regardless, a lot of people, myself included, have been saying wait for the comparisons. And there you have it. Less fun than a E200 CDI. It's not exactly the comparison I was expecting, and it's only one, so it should be taken with a rather large grain of salt.

I also don't get "turns in crisply" with "noticeable understeer at turn-in". To me, that's mutually exclusive. A car can turn in crisply at turn-in and have understeer at the limit, but it can't turn in crisply while understeering at turn-in.

Point is, for me both articles are short on detail, short on explanation, and suspect as far as I'm concerned. I also find it hard to believe that the CR-Z is less fun than a E200 diesel, but then the definition of fun ranges. I'm sure there are many people who have more fun in their LS430 than they would in a Miata. They're definition of fun is just vastly different than yours or mine.
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