FWD troubleshooting
#1
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FWD troubleshooting
not an s2k...so posting here
So my daily is a 2006 TSX with 154k miles and 6spd manual trans. A few thousand miles ago I started noticing the following problems
Anyone have any ideas on diagnosing the source(s)? I know the clutch probably needs to be replaced, but would a bad clutch be causing jerkiness after being fully engaged? I can floor it and it actually will lessening the jerky rocking of the car. I'd really hate to invest in new control arms and a clutch for those not to be the problems. I probably need to check and inspect my tie rod ends as well.
So my daily is a 2006 TSX with 154k miles and 6spd manual trans. A few thousand miles ago I started noticing the following problems
- Car pulls left and is more pronounced when cold
- Steering wheel shakes between 65-70mph, lateral vibrations felt in seat and floorboard
- Car is very jerky, especially when cold; feels cyclical
Anyone have any ideas on diagnosing the source(s)? I know the clutch probably needs to be replaced, but would a bad clutch be causing jerkiness after being fully engaged? I can floor it and it actually will lessening the jerky rocking of the car. I'd really hate to invest in new control arms and a clutch for those not to be the problems. I probably need to check and inspect my tie rod ends as well.
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Just got a real nice report from Blackstone Labs on the TSX tho!
Honda makes some really nice-wearing engines, but sometimes we think they save the best of the
best for their Acura lineup. Your engine is certainly evidence for that, with all your wear metals reading at or
below the averages for the Honda K24 series engines. Those averages are based on ~6,900 miles of oil
use, so your shorter oil run probably helped to keep the iron (steel) reading low, but in any case, this is a
great-looking engine with no obvious problems in the works. The oil is in good shape physically, and no
harmful contaminants were found. Nice!
J07099 06 TSX
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Honda 2.4L (K24) 4-cyl DOHC
5,123 Miles
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best for their Acura lineup. Your engine is certainly evidence for that, with all your wear metals reading at or
below the averages for the Honda K24 series engines. Those averages are based on ~6,900 miles of oil
use, so your shorter oil run probably helped to keep the iron (steel) reading low, but in any case, this is a
great-looking engine with no obvious problems in the works. The oil is in good shape physically, and no
harmful contaminants were found. Nice!
J07099 06 TSX
Gasoline (Unleaded)
Amsoil OE 5W/30
0 qts
1/27/2017
1
20/32
Honda 2.4L (K24) 4-cyl DOHC
5,123 Miles
OIL
REPORT
LAB NUMBER: UNIT ID:
REPORT DATE:
CODE: PAYMENT:
MAKE/MODEL:
FUEL TYPE:
ADDITIONAL INFO:
OIL TYPE & GRADE:
OIL USE INTERVAL: UNIT CLIENT COMMENTS
#3
the vibrations could be that wheels need rebalancing. Tie rod ends would be good to check i'd think. Really bad wheel bearings would howl so maybe not bearings.
Could be bad control arm bushings- like really bad ones- but those are new bearings and a bearing press away from fixed. maybe ball joints.
jack it up, and yank away!
darcy
Could be bad control arm bushings- like really bad ones- but those are new bearings and a bearing press away from fixed. maybe ball joints.
jack it up, and yank away!
darcy
#5
How are your brakes and wheel bearings? Spin freely? No play? Tires are in good shape with proper air pressure i assume. Might be worth swapping them side to side and see if any change.
#6
You need to elaborate. What do you mean pulls to the left, like when you hit the gas from a stop it veers to the left or you notice that when you're cruising on the highway and let go of the steering wheel it wants to go left? You say it feels twitchy and cyclical, I'd that the engine your talking about that it sputters or you talking that the car wants to pull in different directions and is acting erratic. If the alignment checks out its doubtful that the actual arms struts etc are damaged and they usually don't give erratic behaviors, the car will simply want to go one way or another. Wheel bearings make aloud audible noise but unless they're super jacked they won't cause erratic behaviors. Bushings can cause vibrations and "crashing" on suspensions among other traits.
The vibration at 65, do you notice is when you're accelerating, cruising? What gear are you in. If you want to check your clutch simply start from a stop them shift into like third and floor it and seesh if it slips.
The symptoms you described can be a number of things from the bushing and tires like mentioned above to axles, mounts, etc.
Best thing to do is get a reference for a good trustworthy shop and recreate the issues for them, that's infinitely better.
The vibration at 65, do you notice is when you're accelerating, cruising? What gear are you in. If you want to check your clutch simply start from a stop them shift into like third and floor it and seesh if it slips.
The symptoms you described can be a number of things from the bushing and tires like mentioned above to axles, mounts, etc.
Best thing to do is get a reference for a good trustworthy shop and recreate the issues for them, that's infinitely better.
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not an s2k...so posting here
So my daily is a 2006 TSX with 154k miles and 6spd manual trans. A few thousand miles ago I started noticing the following problems
Anyone have any ideas on diagnosing the source(s)? I know the clutch probably needs to be replaced, but would a bad clutch be causing jerkiness after being fully engaged? I can floor it and it actually will lessening the jerky rocking of the car. I'd really hate to invest in new control arms and a clutch for those not to be the problems. I probably need to check and inspect my tie rod ends as well.
So my daily is a 2006 TSX with 154k miles and 6spd manual trans. A few thousand miles ago I started noticing the following problems
- Car pulls left and is more pronounced when cold
- Steering wheel shakes between 65-70mph, lateral vibrations felt in seat and floorboard
- Car is very jerky, especially when cold; feels cyclical
Anyone have any ideas on diagnosing the source(s)? I know the clutch probably needs to be replaced, but would a bad clutch be causing jerkiness after being fully engaged? I can floor it and it actually will lessening the jerky rocking of the car. I'd really hate to invest in new control arms and a clutch for those not to be the problems. I probably need to check and inspect my tie rod ends as well.
#9
My friend's 4Runner was behaving similarly. It was diagnosed as a seized brake caliper. Wild guess but it sounds like something worth checking. It sounds like it could be that one of the front calipers is sticking a bit when cold.
#10
Without actually driving the car I'm going to say it could be a bad L/F tire causing a pull, could have a shifted belt as well. Try swapping your front wheels from left to right to see if the pulling stops. As far as vibrations you could just need something as simple as a wheel balance. After you swap your tires from L to R move them from front to back to see if the vibration changes.
I'm a tech, but it's impossible to diag drivability issues without physically being there. Lol.
I'm a tech, but it's impossible to diag drivability issues without physically being there. Lol.