Chris_Lum

the Autoblog article on this subject reports that there were already existing lawsuits BEFORE Hyundai/Kia admitted fault. Honestly, people are making a bigger deal of this than it is. It's a difference of very few MPG and it's not even a safety issue. It won't be a game changer, Hyundai and Kia will just pay up and it'll be over.

Daniel L

Hm.. BMW rated their 328i at 36mpg and had to revise it down to 33.. Owners got nothing

JonBoy

They might now.

SlowTeg

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I found it interesting/puzzling how hyundai was able to achieve higher numbers across the board for all its cars than most manufacturers, and I guess now we know the answer.. Also, I understand logically a couple mpg is negligible in the real world, but in the marketing world a few mpg can be a huge difference. For example, the Elantra used to have the magical 40mpg highway, and now it's rated below the civic at 38 I believe. Being able to the tout the car as having class leading mileage helps sell cars.. The wife got a '12 Tucson so I guess we'll be getting small reimbursements for a while for the overstated mpg. No issues w/ the car otherwise.

JonBoy

I predicted it way back when, by the way. There was nothing to suggest their ability to get that mileage, leapfrogging everyone so quickly. They're competitive but not class-leading.

They did make everyone stand up and work harder, though. Good for competition and better for consumers, though more companies appear to be getting caught in this game so I'm not sure how many are truly able to get EPA mileage estimates.

SlowTeg

I'm not sure how the newest hondas compare, but that's one thing I've always been happy about with honda. The many I've owned have matched or often times exceeded the rated mpg for each car. And while yes it's not a huge deal, it's nice to know you can trust the numbers vs. some overinflated bs. Sure makes me wonder though about some of these recent mpg ratings from many mfrs..

rnye

My sister bought a Soul a couple years ago. Sent her the link. Thanks!

JohnsS2000

funny how the EPA was the one coming up with these averages. They started calculating these averages back in approx 2006 - 07. The issue with the miles rolling up faster was one with ALL automakers and they where doing it to get the car out of warranty faster for those that drive over the norm. When I sold cars, everyone I know that bough a Hybrid Civic or 1st generation Insight loved them. I also had alot of customers with Civics that got better MPG than that on the window stickers. I also had a customer that had a 1st Generation Civic Hybrid, 2003 or 04 that with 350,000 miles on the car had never replaced a battery(lithium IMA drive battery) and still got super gas mileage, 54 MPG. There are always variables to this also, how well is the car maintained, tire pressure, when you replace airfilters, putting the correct tires on when they wear out, do you floor the car light to light, ETC ETC.. I drove a 2005 Accord that got 37MPG, i think it was rated 34. My S2000 gets 21MPG(City) and the window sticker says 20

JohnsS2000

Even my 22 year old Honda Accord still gets 25MPG with 197,000 low miles on it