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Muscle Car HP Wars Heat Up

Old 07-27-2006, 01:54 PM
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I doubt it will be exact. Some features are impossible on a mass produced cars. Take a closer look at the wheels. Those will never make it to a mass produced cars. Too complex and too expensive.
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:11 PM
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We'll see. That show car looks hot!
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Originally Posted by FrostyWinters,Jul 27 2006, 04:02 PM
The Exxon Valdez?

I mean, yes, it is a great looking car. But Detroit seems to be about 3 years behind in reality checks. Given current gas prices, these muscle cars will sell for maybe the first two years. Once the 'newness' worn off, then they will just sit on the dealers' lots collecting dust.

Look at Honda. Honda has the highest CAFE in all auto manufacturers who sell cars and trucks in the United States. Honda can't even sell Ridgelines and Pilots without heavy incentives ($2000 and $3000 respectively). Take for granted the Pilot is old, but then again it points out that 'newness' and gas mileage play important roles nowadays.

IMO, wrong time to push muscle cars. They should spend more time, money and energy on more efficient engines, cars and trucks.
Honda incentives are NOT GM incentives. Honda still makes money after incentives. And I dont know how things are where you are, but in NY, if you want a Pilot a certain way, youre gonna wait for it.
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NFR, some people are crack addicts....let them be.

Old 07-27-2006, 04:24 PM
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Muscle cars and sports cars aren't about the price per gallon of gas or any rationality, they are about desire and gas prices don't even enter into the picture.
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Originally Posted by brockLT1,Jul 27 2006, 11:12 PM
keep in mind with a T56 transmisson and a deep torque curve, these things could get up to 28mpg on the freeway.
Don't count on it.In the real world (you ain't gonna drive a 400+hp car like a hybrid) you'll be lucky to see 15 city/highway.My C6 was supposed to get me 21-22 combined and I never saw anything more than 16mpg.I could get 26 on a straight highway drive with cruise on 70 but even there I would step on it and the mpg would drop instantly,its the nature of the beast.
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I love it! So far my Dream garage, aka wish list, has a NSX and C6 zo6.....I might have to make room for this monster.
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Nice.
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Originally Posted by archtop,Jul 27 2006, 06:52 PM
Don't count on it.In the real world (you ain't gonna drive a 400+hp car like a hybrid) you'll be lucky to see 15 city/highway.My C6 was supposed to get me 21-22 combined and I never saw anything more than 16mpg.I could get 26 on a straight highway drive with cruise on 70 but even there I would step on it and the mpg would drop instantly,its the nature of the beast.
True, I hear so many people try to justify the efficiency of these thing by saying its theoretically capable of 28-30 but will deliver that maybe one tank in its design life.

400hp and great miles per gallon do not go hand in hand. Thats not to say I have anything against a 400hp car per se, it is to say that anyone who thinks it will be a great, highly practical DD is probably kidding themselves.

I don't know where I saw it but I thought I read an article that the SRT8 charger carries a couple grand gas guzzler tax on top of the ~$40K sticker. This Challenger does not look a whole lot lighter.
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Now, about the fuel economy. To use the word "economy" while describing it is to be ironic. Maybe even a little arch. The EPA rates the 4180-pound Charger SRT8 at 14 mpg in the city and 20 mpg on the highway, but drive the car the way it begs to be driven and single-digit numbers in the city aren't just possible but likely and maybe unavoidable. In an era of dang-near or more-than $3 per gallon gas, that demands a significant financial commitment on the part of the owner. And not just at the pump, because this car gets a gas-guzzler tax slapped on it to the tune of $2100. Ouch.


****From some random article on the Charger SRT8

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