New Supra
#111
Fake vents seem to be the norm. I do prefer the look of the old Supra, but I think this new car will look great once the aftermarket gets their hands on it.
#112
#114
I bet the new Supra drives great, and pricing is not out of line. The negative responses are mostly because it doesn't live up to it's old name as many would have expected. I expected it to be an NSX and GTR competitor, and perhaps slay some of the domestic muscle car stuff being pumped out there. Obviously to do that it would have been priced well north of 100k. It's their bed they can lay in it, I'm sure their marketing geeks figured it could sell to enough customers to make it profitable. Making a profitable sports car these days is extremely difficult, likely the reason they teamed up with BMW, and as Sam said if you don't like it don't buy it.
#115
You know it's very possible that those fake vents could be opened up in a later sorry version, ala c7 with the z51 pack. Additionally I'm sure z owners with they had options for venting in the front bumpers for their brakes.
If people have a beef with that, then where does it end? Two tailpipes on 4 cylinder cars? Less we forget the mkiv supra came with a huge spoiler which I'm sure people will chime in is functional, is it really?
Styling is just that, styling.
If people have a beef with that, then where does it end? Two tailpipes on 4 cylinder cars? Less we forget the mkiv supra came with a huge spoiler which I'm sure people will chime in is functional, is it really?
Styling is just that, styling.
#116
#117
That's fair. But as far as general car discussions go I can understand the temptation to bag on this car even though I have no interest in owning one.
That's where things get a bit tricky. Toyota surely didn't mind all of the hype this car received in advance, but they didn't exactly make this car on their own and naming it a Supra now seems a bit cheesy. I have no idea how many buyers Toyota will find for this car going forward. I think it's a shame that they couldn't have come up with a Supra of their own making. In that case I would have liked to be able to compare the resulting Toyota Supra with the BMW/Toyota collaboration car.
But obviously this specific collaboration illustrates that the current automotive world is a rapidly changing one and with that in mind I think I get your point(s).
That's where things get a bit tricky. Toyota surely didn't mind all of the hype this car received in advance, but they didn't exactly make this car on their own and naming it a Supra now seems a bit cheesy. I have no idea how many buyers Toyota will find for this car going forward. I think it's a shame that they couldn't have come up with a Supra of their own making. In that case I would have liked to be able to compare the resulting Toyota Supra with the BMW/Toyota collaboration car.
But obviously this specific collaboration illustrates that the current automotive world is a rapidly changing one and with that in mind I think I get your point(s).
#118
Moderator
At the end of the day, the new Supra is a heavy GT, and that's been the case since the 1980s. Yeah, it's sporty, and it will be quick enough, but it's not a badge queen like a BMW is and I think that will impact sales. People won't wear the Supra like Z4 jewelry in their driveway.
#119
Can't wait for the 2046 Supra with 350hp and a CVT. I'm just saying, we waited 26 years and got 15hp and a less fun transmission, so just extrapolating that forward. As much crap as the NSX gets, at least they more than doubled the power!
#120