Not an S2K - 2009 Civic SI Premature Clutch Wear?
01-06-2010, 06:37 AM
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Hard to say, since driver experience doesn't mean there wasn't a bad clutch dump. Or, why would he keep driving it as it got worse? Its possible your son was messing around, messed up, and that's why he never told you about the car despite all his experience with driving manuals.
01-06-2010, 07:16 AM
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Honestly, I've taught people to drive on my S2K, with 70K miles on the odo...it JUST finally wore out after I burnt the clutch a few times (learning how to launch..) and after I taught many people on it. Its not a few times, it had to have been consistent to burn it out that fast
01-06-2010, 07:25 AM
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There are definitely alot of hot spots on that pressure plate and I would suggest that there are on the flywheel side too. If you get a few spots like that on there early in the life of it they only get worse and it will fail prematurely unless you re-surface it. For it to have failed in this short a mileage though is either manufacturing defect or driver error. Driver failure could include but is not limited to: improper break in, poor launching, and extremely poor rev matching.
For him to have to leave at 3000 means to me that there was no longer enough friction between the flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate on their own. They needed the added pressure from the fingers to create enough friction to give forward momentum to the car. Which is definitely not normal and probably should have been checked out much earlier.
In my S2000 I could move it at idle with no throttle quite easily with 65,000 miles on the original clutch. A Civic really shouldn't be any different.
For him to have to leave at 3000 means to me that there was no longer enough friction between the flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate on their own. They needed the added pressure from the fingers to create enough friction to give forward momentum to the car. Which is definitely not normal and probably should have been checked out much earlier.
In my S2000 I could move it at idle with no throttle quite easily with 65,000 miles on the original clutch. A Civic really shouldn't be any different.
01-06-2010, 07:38 AM
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If there was a problem from day 1, and dealer said it was "ok", and it was truly a concern why didn't he just look up the pedal adjustment specs online or in the service manual to verify the pedal position himself?
The SI is notorious for complaints of the pedal being too high but that is just how the car was engineered, with a high pedal position and engagement point (just like it was engineered so anyone over like 5'8" has the parking brake jammed in their leg when driving).
Since you "taught him to launch" a car, I assume you taught him that the more abuse you put on the drivetrain the quicker the wear will be. Now he got a real life example.
The SI is notorious for complaints of the pedal being too high but that is just how the car was engineered, with a high pedal position and engagement point (just like it was engineered so anyone over like 5'8" has the parking brake jammed in their leg when driving).
Since you "taught him to launch" a car, I assume you taught him that the more abuse you put on the drivetrain the quicker the wear will be. Now he got a real life example.
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