Originally Posted by TheDonEffect

Crank walk. And I'd rather have a gsx.

Originally Posted by s2000Junky

Why not? Actually there isn't really anything that can replace an S2000, at any price point. Its its own car. Boxter? haha The S2k stays, and other cars get added to it in the garage if desired. From a fun enthusiast standpoint point a stock S is still fantastic after all these years, but my modified S2000 get more head turning and attention in a parking lot or cruising down the blvrd then any Boxter, or a lot of supercars, because those are so common and quickly identified in my area. From a car enthusiast perspective thats just part of the fun, and from a driving enthusiast perspective the S also hits really high marks. From a cost to own and maintain perspective there isnt much better. From a club perspective its right up there, and from a track capable car it gets very high marks. When you consider all key points that make up car ownership why would you not compare it to any sports car. The S2000 was designed on the heels of all the great nineties Japanese supercars when these companies were full of passion and cared about building a true unique sports car within their vision which did compete with all the exotics for the time, unlike today where all that passion is lost. Other then a new miata and maybe brz which makes me choke a little to say, there isnt really anything other then current super cars to compare it to. They are the only segment of cars which the production is driven by passion still.

Originally Posted by S2020

at any price point? This may be true below $30K.
Above this there are many choices. All of which have better driving experience than the S2000. Don’t get me wrong. I love the S2000 and kept it the longest (15 years) out of all the cars I’ve ever owned. However, I have driven cars that are more fun.
(not at all comprehensive) list of cars I’d rather have than the S2000 (in generally increasing price). These cars are better than the S2000 in almost all measures: handling, sounds, speed, power, looks.

boxster spyder
GT4
GT3
GTS
F355
Challenge Stradale (extensive seat time)
570S
675LT
performante
Scuderia
720S
Speciale
aventador sv
Ford GT
Carrera GT
LFA
... (you get the drift)

Originally Posted by s2000Junky

I appreciate your opinion, and most of those are excellent cars id agree with you on, but a sizable portion do not tick all the boxes the S does. For instance, some of them don't have a manual transmission so can take off the list, some no open top ie convertible/Targa option so take off the list, some are arguably slower then my modified S2k so take off the list. Some I would never have as much fun driving because either they are too heavy with a long wheel base or I would be too afraid to put any miles on it, nor could I afford to maintain it. 30k isn't much for a car these days, certainly one that ticks all my boxes, so yeah you need to have the door open for considering cars far far more expensive and that just isn't realistic for me and wont ever be. Looks are subjective, but I will tell you I cannot not turn around and admire my car for a glance or two every time I get out of it. If I still had a bone stock ap1, id have a slightly different opinion on some things. But that's the other element of what makes the S so great, is its modifiable platform and being a tuner at heart this car lends itself to ones creativity. I would never trade my S for a brand new Boxter.

Originally Posted by s2000Junky

Why not? Actually there isn't really anything that can replace an S2000, at any price point...

Originally Posted by s2000Junky

I appreciate your opinion, and most of those are excellent cars id agree with you on, but a sizable portion do not tick all the boxes the S does. For instance, some of them don't have a manual transmission so can take off the list, some no open top ie convertible/Targa option so take off the list, some are arguably slower then my modified S2k so take off the list. Some I would never have as much fun driving because either they are too heavy with a long wheel base or I would be too afraid to put any miles on it, nor could I afford to maintain it. 30k isn't much for a car these days, certainly one that ticks all my boxes, so yeah you need to have the door open for considering cars far far more expensive and that just isn't realistic for me and wont ever be. Looks are subjective, but I will tell you I cannot not turn around and admire my car for a glance or two every time I get out of it. If I still had a bone stock ap1, id have a slightly different opinion on some things. But that's the other element of what makes the S so great, is its modifiable platform and being a tuner at heart this car lends itself to ones creativity. I would never trade my S for a brand new Boxter.

Originally Posted by Bullwings

ND2... looks like it's killing this S2k on a "Big Boy Track" - Laguna Seca - and not just Auto-X. It's very mildly modified and not running any aero, as compared to Zygrene's S2k.

Originally Posted by s2000Junky

Not sure which video you are watching but the one i'm watching here shows two cars with a similar power to weight ratio with less then great driving in an S2000 which isn't set up optimally for that track nearly pacing each other. Talk to the s2k driver in vid, im sure he would agree with me.

If I thought the new Miata was a better more fun a and rewarding, exciting car to own, id own one. I don't need a new car for the sake of new. Kudos to Mazda for continuing to put some effort into their Miata development. Cant say the same for Honda these days.