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Old 07-20-2005, 06:38 AM
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Default Remember when Grand Nationals were fast?

My first new car was an 11 sec car. 11 sec to 60 that is.

That was a 88 VW Fox. Very slow but this was a time when the Buick Grand National was fast for a production car.

I was just looking at a retrospective of the Buick Grand National that was made from 1984-87

They're 3.8L V6 turbo the first year manages to wheeze out a fantastic 200hp and 300-TQ.

1986 got intercooler for an earth shattering 235hp and 330-TQ and a dash from 0-60 in under 7 sec (that's about the time you'll get a V6 Mustang today)

Top dog the 87 GNX only 547 of them were sold so its one of the most collectible cars of the decade. The GNX had 276hp and 360-TQ. (It was in this era the NSX was launched when 270hp meant something).


I guess these cars are easy to mod like the last Supra turbo. They say the prices have leveled off or even gone up in the past few years $8K-$10K for a solid runner and all the way up to $18K for a great shape one.

They sold only about 30,000 cars in 4 years

The Dodge Neon (with factory option) can put out numbers about what a GNX was putting out with about half the displacement.
Old 07-20-2005, 06:47 AM
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lol. We must be around the same age. I used to dream of owning a "Gran Nash". Chuckle. I thought it was a 6 second 0-60 car. I think these are still highly collectable.
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GNX could have been a 6-second car. Today an Avalon is sub-six


I was never into mustangs or camaros but the GN or the GNX were mean.

Not sure but they may have all been Black at least that's all I remamber.
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The GN was special because you could turn it into a 10sec drag car with about $2000 worth of parts on it...

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Yeah, I never heard of Grand Nationals being all that fast stock. It was the fact that they were easily modified that got them their reputation.
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Let's not forget about the Cyclone and the Typhoon, same powerplant if I'm not mistaken but with AWD/4WD I remember one of the major car mags like Road&Track or C&D got 0-60 in 4.6 or 4.8 seconds and those all had slush boxes I believe.
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Originally Posted by rai,Jul 20 2005, 10:38 AM
1986 got intercooler for an earth shattering 235hp and 330-TQ and a dash from 0-60 in under 7 sec.
try 4.9s....car & driver, april/86 issue.

GNX 4.7s....car & driver, may/87 issue.

the GN/GNX were the fastest production cars other than the P-turbo (4.6s) at the time.

even though it was 20 years ago, no one would have gotten excited about a 7s 0-60 time.

no idea why you would even THINK it was in the 7s range....brain fade?

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Reportedly the HP was under rated as not to over shadow the Vette
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Originally Posted by JHoff,Jul 20 2005, 12:11 PM
Let's not forget about the Cyclone and the Typhoon, same powerplant if I'm not mistaken but with AWD/4WD I remember one of the major car mags like Road&Track or C&D got 0-60 in 4.6 or 4.8 seconds and those all had slush boxes I believe.
did someone say Typhoon???? (the sy and ty actually have a 4.3L turbo instead of the 3.8L that was in the GN's).

I am so used to my Evo that the Typhoon really doesn't feel all that fast (it is stock).


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Scot, do you own an Evo?


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