So sick and tired of power talk...
#61
What makes it cheaper then an S2k?
i tracked mine for years and never had any broken parts. Only consumables were replaced. $120/tires were cheap compared to my $250+ setup now. Same goes for rotors and pads.
i tracked mine for years and never had any broken parts. Only consumables were replaced. $120/tires were cheap compared to my $250+ setup now. Same goes for rotors and pads.
#62
It's a whole ton cheaper. If you plow the miata into a wall no big deal... your out most $4-5k. Try that in an S2000. 15" Tires are $300-400 tops. Track pads are $180-250 for a whole set. Rotors are $20 a pop. Blown motor? Tranny? What... $700-1k? F2X Engine is $3k alone. Diff is $300-$400. Aftermarket segment is huge and parts vary but overall the aftermarket parts for a Miata are a whole lot cheaper than the S2000.
#63
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i respectfully disagree. I love driving and i drive a lot. I dont track much anymore so i get all my enjoyment of driving on the streets. No matter how nice a car handles or how perfect everything else about the car is i personally cannot enjoy driving a slow car. I also dislike driver cars with way way too much power as they can be to scary to drive. Slow and fast are relative terms But i enjoy driving a car that has between 500-600whp. Typically a car that can trap 122-130mph in the 1/4 miles is a car with ideal power for me to be happy. 1000+hp supra 700+whp s2000 are too too fast. Been there done that and i dont enjoy it. Sub 400whp s2000's to me also feel too slow, especially if they are super charged. but a nice 500whp s2000 really to me is the perfect driving enjoyment machine.
Now if your talking about track driving that a whole different thing. I need much less power on the track to have fun. a 350-400whp s2000 would be perfect for the track. 500-600whp would be a death trap for a s2000 on track.
but everybody is different. I have meet car enthusiast that are 100% happy with driving sub 200whp cars. I wish i was one of them. It would save me lots of money.
Now if your talking about track driving that a whole different thing. I need much less power on the track to have fun. a 350-400whp s2000 would be perfect for the track. 500-600whp would be a death trap for a s2000 on track.
but everybody is different. I have meet car enthusiast that are 100% happy with driving sub 200whp cars. I wish i was one of them. It would save me lots of money.
#64
It's a whole ton cheaper. If you plow the miata into a wall no big deal... your out most $4-5k. Try that in an S2000. 15" Tires are $300-400 tops. Track pads are $180-250 for a whole set. Rotors are $20 a pop. Blown motor? Tranny? What... $700-1k? F2X Engine is $3k alone. Diff is $300-$400. Aftermarket segment is huge and parts vary but overall the aftermarket parts for a Miata are a whole lot cheaper than the S2000.
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Ehh...sorta. It's not a perfect test, but Car and Driver's Lightning Lap has the Miata as two of the slowest cars they've run (ND at 205 and NC at 219, second to last ahead of the Fit). This doesn't count the not-street-legal Miata Cup Car (118). Given the acclaim for the chassis, etc, that tells me that low power here IS a deficit, and that no matter how much skill you have you aren't going to overcome the power gap. Can a good driver in a slow car beat a bad one in a fast car? Sure. But let's not pretend a good driver can overcome no power magically.
#68
Its all relative to the course layout/ how long the strait is. Basically it matters on a full size road course. Dodging cones in a parking lot, not so much.
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There is no bigger putting you in your place as when you're on track, on your liter, and some semi-pro sponsored 15 year old, on a 125, comes past you in a corner like you're standing still