he brought up need. Of course i don’t need them. I’ve never hit anything in my orange dinosaur mobile and it has no cameras.

The topic isn’t “what tech do you need.” My response was flippant because his point was dumb and obvious. No one needs a lot of stuff in new cars.

All around cameras when done well are cool and sometimes useful. They allow you to see things, mirrors can’t without getting out of the car. But, you don’t need them. That’s such an obvious statement, hence the derp. We don’t need power steering either, but it’s useful. You really want to discuss all the things we don’t need in a modern car, what for? You just want a literal go-kart? If not, someone will make fun of you for not being hard core enough because you need spring based suspense....wuss.

car talk should be renamed to Luddite talk at this point.

right, I only made fun of the need comment. Cuz, that’s a duh comment. Your topic is great, lots of good discussions.

“Enjoy your s2000 (gokart) *snicker*” - Every Elise owner ever! Cars are full of stuff we don’t need. It’s awesome. An s2000 isn’t even necessary as a car.

I wish the the lady behind me this morning had auto brake, I’d have a nicely smashed rear-end if it wasn’t for the center lane. It would be great if everyone cared to learn to be a great driver and understood the dynamics of their cars well, but I live in the real world. In my job I manage hundreds of people, you get good at being pragmatic if you want to succeed. It is more likely the tech will improve and make us safer in spite of ourselves vs people will just get better at driving.

As as far as the particular around camera in the m5, it’s really good. Probably the best on the market. Neat party trick and occasionally useful. But, I’ve had many cars at this point and have hit zero objects at low speed where the camera really helps, well....maybe a curb or two, but that’s pretty good in 27 years of driving. So no, I don’t need it, but I like it and wish our odyssey had it.