ishtori5

Don't know about the Cayman S but from the Porsche spec sheet the 718 boxster loss weight. Must been some improvements made on the folding mechanism. Also, it is not possible for the 718 to lose 4-5 gallons worth of fuel capacity. It has same as before.

jeffbrig

I think it's one of those technicalities the Germans are so fond of. Most of the current sports cars from Porsche come with a smaller 12 gallon fuel tank standard. Of course, the "expanded capacity" 16 gallon fuel tank is a $0 option, and pretty much every car they produce has one.

vader1

Oh, I mean the next car will be an add not a replacement. I am keeping the Cayman till I am dead.

fusionchickenleg

Having driven a 997.1 c2s, 997.2 turbo s, and a few 991 c2s's, I can say that the 997 felt way more communicative and dynamic. The 991 definitely felt more like a GT car, and with their higher limits don't feel as much fun going slower on the streets.

Comparing the 997 turbo s to the c2s, my memory is that the steering was dramatically better in the non-AWD model. The c2s literally didn't feel like it had a nose, the turn-in was insanely sharp and effortless, and I loved the steering feel. I haven't driven any older Porsche models but I'd imagine older generations to be even more raw.

I've driven a lot of F8x M cars and the 997 c2s is definitely way more raw / exciting to drive spiritedly (when not just going WOT in a straightline). Honestly the 997 turbo s was more fun in the canyons and felt much faster in a straightline than the M3/M4 to me as well

spdracerut

I've driven a 997 Carrera and the steering feel was pretty phenomenal. It's one of those, once you experience it, you understand it. Haven't driven a 991.2 yet. But I'd imagine the C4 with the awd will mute the steering feel. The car I liked more than the 997? The Cayman. The one I drove was a 2007 base model, so bottom of the rung. But damn, the way the car rotates with the throttle and how it turns-in is something amazing, the pure physics of being mid-engine. Driving the 997, I could feel the rear engine hanging out there and didn't particularly care for it. Maybe the 991.2 with rear steering fixes that feel.

But I'm angling for a 718 in a few years. 2.0L turbo, mid-engine, and I'm hoping COBB will have the AccessPort available for it by then for some easy power gains. The 718 Cayman S with the 2.5L engine just came in 2nd place in Motor Trends Car of the Year competition behind the Ferrari 488. The 718 wasn't even suppose to be in the COTY competition, but Porsche couldn't deliver some 911 variant. In the C&D Lightning Lap, they said the 718 was the favorite of many on the track.

spdracerut

On a side note, if you're ever in Los Angeles, or Atlanta, hit up the Porsche Experience Center. They have a mid vs rear engine course you can take along with rear vs awd. Among many other courses. So if you want a good chuck of seat time to figure out what you really want, PEC is a good way to do it.

WolfpackS2k

Not sure what to tell you? Right on Porsche's website it says the tank size of a Boxster is 14.3 gallons. Which is actually larger than I thought, but still smaller than the "old" size of 16.9 gallons. And their weight listed for the base Boxster is 2944 lb, which is definitely an increase over the previous base Boxster that was under 2900 lb. EDIT - it looks like a 16.9 gallon tank is the standard size for the 718 Cayman. Go figure, hah.

If you don't care about the 4 bangers, why not hold out for a 718 S? The 2.5 liter engine comes with a variable geometry turbo said to help minimize turbo lag, which is one of the primary complaints of the 2.0 liter models.

vader1

Cobb will probably have something by then but checkout Softronic as well.

honda606

Tuck Furbos. 981 > 718

spdracerut

Personally, I think the 2.0L will be more reliable than the 2.5L when subjected to extended high-rpm use. Like with WRXs, the EJ20 seems to be much more robust than the EJ25. I think a large contributing factor is the 2.0Ls having smaller bores and shorter strokes, so lower piston speeds/accelerations and less side loading. A twin-scroll GTX3071R on the 2.0L would make for a fun package.