Test drove a Carrera 4S, was frustrated

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10-20-2017, 07:48 AM

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I've driven a 997 Carrera and the steering feel was pretty phenomenal. It's one of those, once you experience it, you understand it.

That's why, despite having an E90 M3, which actually got the same time as the 997.2 C2S at Lightning Lap in the same year, I still lust for a 997 C2S. Performance is similar and the M3 is a great car, but the 911 just had more feel and was more engaging. It's a real sports car vs. a sports sedan.

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10-20-2017, 07:49 AM

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I've driven a 997 Carrera and the steering feel was pretty phenomenal. It's one of those, once you experience it, you understand it.

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10-20-2017, 07:59 AM

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I've driven a 997 Carrera and the steering feel was pretty phenomenal. It's one of those, once you experience it, you understand it. Haven't driven a 991.2 yet. But I'd imagine the C4 with the awd will mute the steering feel. The car I liked more than the 997? The Cayman. The one I drove was a 2007 base model, so bottom of the rung. But damn, the way the car rotates with the throttle and how it turns-in is something amazing, the pure physics of being mid-engine. Driving the 997, I could feel the rear engine hanging out there and didn't particularly care for it. Maybe the 991.2 with rear steering fixes that feel.

I've got a few years worth of seat time in the 987, and I'm still very happy with the way it handles. I drove a 991.1 c2 (non S) a couple of years back, and found it a little underwhelming, to be honest. Motor seemed way too quiet, and in the 7-spd manual, you really had to get on it to feel like it had much power. It just didn't feel eager at all. I deliberately got it sideways while turning on damp pavement. Nothing scary but you can really feel all that mass hanging out back - huge difference from the mid-engine feel I'm used to. I also had the opportunity to drive a 991 Targa 4S earlier this year. Open top, so it sounded great, and the blip shifting manual makes you feel (sound?) like a hero while driving it. I didn't drive it hard enough to feel out the handling dynamics, but I do remember the steering being a bit lighter than my 987. That was a really nice car though...

And then last month I went for a ride (not drive) in a friend's 991.2 Turbo. With upgraded turbos, meth injection, and a PDK. It's putting down 800+ hp, and ran a 10.2 on street tires at PBIR. From a stop with launch control, it is violence and insanity like I have never experienced. I was looking for something to grab ahold of. Launch control allows a tiny bit of wheel slip up to about 30mph before it fully hooks up, then it shoves you into the back of the seat ever harder. I know MT recently measured almost 1.3g of acceleration force in a stock Turbo S, which exceeds even a Tesla in ludicrous mode. This car is up probably 250hp on a stock Turbo S. It reminded me a little bit of getting shot out of the gamma ray gun on the Hulk coaster at Universal Orlando.

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10-20-2017, 05:14 PM

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And then last month I went for a ride (not drive) in a friend's 991.2 Turbo. With upgraded turbos, meth injection, and a PDK. It's putting down 800+ hp, and ran a 10.2 on street tires at PBIR. From a stop with launch control, it is violence and insanity like I have never experienced. I was looking for something to grab ahold of. Launch control allows a tiny bit of wheel slip up to about 30mph before it fully hooks up, then it shoves you into the back of the seat ever harder. I know MT recently measured almost 1.3g of acceleration force in a stock Turbo S, which exceeds even a Tesla in ludicrous mode. This car is up probably 250hp on a stock Turbo S. It reminded me a little bit of getting shot out of the gamma ray gun on the Hulk coaster at Universal Orlando.

That sounds like an absolute blast