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Old 05-10-2010, 06:50 AM
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So, reportedly Toyota wants to make a low cost rwd car despite creeping costs on the FT-86, so now it wants to make a lighter cheaper version of that car...

http://blog.roadandtrack.com/toyota-...-a-baby-gt-86/

The FT-86 has caused a big stir for Toyota ever since it was introduced at the last Tokyo Motor Show. Now we hear that Toyota is also working on milder sports car, one that’ll be $5000 less expensive than the FT-86. When the FT-86 goes on sale in 2011, we predict that it’ll come with a price tag slightly above $20,000. Toyota had originally wanted to keep the FT-86’s price tag below the $20,000-mark; however, development costs are running way over budget, and we hear that Toyota is resigned to the fact that the FT-86 will be a $20,000-plus car.

In order to fill the under-$20,000 sports-car hole in its lineup, the company is reportedly working on a baby FT-86. This car will measure about 150 in. overall length and come powered by the company’s 3SZ-VE engine, a 1.5-liter inline-4 that produces 109 bhp. It will feature a front-engine/rear drive layout. Details are still sketchy at this point, but look for this new sports car to make its debut sometime 2012.
So, 109 hp engine, in something I can still see weighing ~2500 pounds. Why am I not buying a slightly used MX-5?

We'll have to wait and see what actually shows up, but 109 hp seems like a bad idea. The good news of course - 2JZ swaps!
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maybe they want to make a crz competitor
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This makes me sad, the boxer engine was a turn on for me with this car. I am disappointed they will be ditching it for the cheap model.
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I guess since they sold a ton of the 102 hp Celicas they think they can do it again...
Old 05-10-2010, 07:30 AM
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great, looks like they are trying to out due Honda for worst awesome concept to worst production car turnabout that no one will want.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,May 10 2010, 07:50 AM
Why am I not buying a slightly used MX-5?
I don't know about you, but this thing appearance wise looks much better than a Miata. I think they'll capture a different market than the Miata has. Driving dynamics... we'll see about.
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posted about the car a few weeks ago...

http://gazoo.com/racing/english/grmn/carli...detail_frhh.asp




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Reserving judgement until I hear final production curb weight and power, but at this rate this car better be friggin light, not just over or around 3000lbs, I mean well under 3000lbs. Considering Hyundai started from scratch and brought an I4 turbo and V6 rwd coupe, well equipped for mid 20s, with a 10 year warranty, toyota better come with something noticeably lighter if it isn't going to be more powerful.
And this small car thing, maaan, 109hp? I mean civic lxs make more power than that. Keep in mind the hachi roku came out in a time before the B series Hondas, 240sx and silvias, 400hp mustangs and camaros, EVOs, WRXs, etc. Hell, even the base miata makes a lot more than that now.
But who knows, maybe they'll keep production down to a small handful and sell it at a loss even though it'll still cost vastly more than it really should, but it'll be all g because they'll focus on making sure it sounds right and all will be forgiven.
I guess I wasn't reserving my judgement...
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150" in length? That is one tiny car.


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