All these new car threads
02-25-2015, 01:30 AM
#121
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Got to disagree there... The E30 is ultra cool. A perfect classic German motor to fettle, it doesn't have to be an M3. There are easy options for engine conversions if you're clever enough. Shoehorning in an S52 is relatively easy if you like chasing horses. S54 has been done also, it makes it quite a little rocket.
My bro has an E36 M3 Cab, just not my cuppa tea and I have to agree it's horrendously aged/styled. Same with z3 & the E46 has become somewhat dated as you say. The later E9* shapes are gorgeous, such sweeping lines, boring interiors but screwed together well. Silly dashboard keys are an issue I think bmw never fixed.
The E30 is a super little project classic for the future, brought back to life they can command a few quid to buy. More interesting than a done to death Austin Mini!
stick an S next to a 2015 new VAG, it looks dated
My bro has an E36 M3 Cab, just not my cuppa tea and I have to agree it's horrendously aged/styled. Same with z3 & the E46 has become somewhat dated as you say. The later E9* shapes are gorgeous, such sweeping lines, boring interiors but screwed together well. Silly dashboard keys are an issue I think bmw never fixed.
The E30 is a super little project classic for the future, brought back to life they can command a few quid to buy. More interesting than a done to death Austin Mini!
stick an S next to a 2015 new VAG, it looks dated
Try a £25K E30 M3 and then a £15K Cayman S and tell me which one is the better drive. Let's not even go there with a £40K Integrale and a one year old Golf R. I have no nostalgia and love for stuff just because it's old and a 25 yo Evo staffer is moist about it. Old Fords - with the exception of a few highly modified examples, pretty shit. One of the most hyped cars out there - the pagoda SL Merc - shit to drive. A Boxster S at one fifth of the price is five times the car.
02-25-2015, 01:40 AM
#122
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Still. as you say, five years is a long time. I reckon you're fairly safe for at least three. Drug dealers don't drive Jags. they're driven by dribbling old gits like me.
02-25-2015, 02:20 AM
#123
Originally Posted by Nottm_S2' timestamp='1424849889' post='23518234
I know what you mean but M3 numbers have declined with each generation. I read somewhere there were 3 times as many E46 made as the E9 M3s
Theres a long time till then anyway
Theres a long time till then anyway
Still. as you say, five years is a long time. I reckon you're fairly safe for at least three. Drug dealers don't drive Jags. they're driven by dribbling old gits like me.with classics, you can either be arsed to do it, or not.
02-25-2015, 02:34 AM
#124
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Originally Posted by gaddafi' timestamp='1424860801' post='23518290
[quote name='Nottm_S2' timestamp='1424849889' post='23518234']
I know what you mean but M3 numbers have declined with each generation. I read somewhere there were 3 times as many E46 made as the E9 M3s
Theres a long time till then anyway
I know what you mean but M3 numbers have declined with each generation. I read somewhere there were 3 times as many E46 made as the E9 M3s
Theres a long time till then anyway
Still. as you say, five years is a long time. I reckon you're fairly safe for at least three. Drug dealers don't drive Jags. they're driven by dribbling old gits like me.with classics, you can either be arsed to do it, or not.
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People restore all sorts of old shite. Done it myself in the past Each to their own but if someone's restoring a 1300 Escort, 316i E30 (as standard) or Hillman Avenger, don't be surprised if quite a few people are puzzled or take the piss. Those cars were nothing special in their day and time has not improved them.
02-25-2015, 03:49 AM
#125
Very true, that!
Having said that, I'd say that a Lotus Cortina or its Bavarian Cortina E30 equivalent probably are more interesting than the cooking tin boxes, which never interested me when new.
But most cars seem to go through that awkward council-house period (wrong engines, huge spoilers, "stanced" stupid wheels) and only a few originals survive to become true classics.
Actually, it's true Porsches seem to be more immune. Where DO they all go in that 10-20 yo period, not the get barried as do S2000s? One just doesn't seem to see them around.
02-25-2015, 05:02 AM
#126
I have had more FIats than I care to remember, and my wife had a new X1/9 before small feet arrived on the scene.
I always wanted a 1300 X1/9 from being a kid, and when a great Lido came up for grabs (in Margate...), I had to have it. It had only 34 K miles on it from new and very little corrosion. New paint, LOTS of N.O.S. parts, Cromodora magnesium wheels, I threw everything at it... including £500 to have the quarter bumpers straightened and triple plated.
After 3 years, much time and a bit of cash, the day it was finalised I had it MOT and Mrs P and I went for a drive in it. 15 miles or so later, we stopped and looked at each other knowingly; it was a noisy, cramped, slow, 'old' car. The disappointment was almost heart-breaking.
Like so many things of yesteryear, they're best committed to memory and not revisited.
I sold the car some months later having driven less than 200 miles since it was rebuilt. I like to kid myself that I recovered my costs...
02-25-2015, 05:12 AM
#127
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Originally Posted by gaddafi' timestamp='1424864059' post='23518322
[People restore all sorts of old shite... ....Those cars were nothing special in their day and time has not improved them.
I have had more FIats than I care to remember, and my wife had a new X1/9 before small feet arrived on the scene.
I always wanted a 1300 X1/9 from being a kid, and when a great Lido came up for grabs (in Margate...), I had to have it. It had only 34 K miles on it from new and very little corrosion. New paint, LOTS of N.O.S. parts, Cromodora magnesium wheels, I threw everything at it... including £500 to have the quarter bumpers straightened and triple plated.
After 3 years, much time and a bit of cash, the day it was finalised I had it MOT and Mrs P and I went for a drive in it. 15 miles or so later, we stopped and looked at each other knowingly; it was a noisy, cramped, slow, 'old' car. The disappointment was almost heart-breaking.
Like so many things of yesteryear, they're best committed to memory and not revisited.
I sold the car some months later having driven less than 200 miles since it was rebuilt. I like to kid myself that I recovered my costs...
02-25-2015, 05:16 AM
#128
A good few years ago a mate had an 80s 911. It was, as Gad describes, a bit of a steaming turd. Terrible gearbox, awful 80s looks, rusty, temperamental and crap inside. It broke a lot and cost him a lot.
Same guy used to wear a headband to 5 a side
All the yank M3s scream dealer. Indeed my missus tells me mine does too. I do look at others and think that already. Oh dear
I dont know what i'll get next or when, i think the cars that suit my needs currently are also ideal for bank jobs and pimps.. Lifes too short for sensible imo
Same guy used to wear a headband to 5 a side
All the yank M3s scream dealer. Indeed my missus tells me mine does too. I do look at others and think that already. Oh dear
I dont know what i'll get next or when, i think the cars that suit my needs currently are also ideal for bank jobs and pimps.. Lifes too short for sensible imo
02-25-2015, 06:51 AM
#130
Originally Posted by Polemicist' timestamp='1424872975' post='23518433
[quote name='gaddafi' timestamp='1424864059' post='23518322']
[People restore all sorts of old shite... ....Those cars were nothing special in their day and time has not improved them.
[People restore all sorts of old shite... ....Those cars were nothing special in their day and time has not improved them.
I have had more FIats than I care to remember, and my wife had a new X1/9 before small feet arrived on the scene.
I always wanted a 1300 X1/9 from being a kid, and when a great Lido came up for grabs (in Margate...), I had to have it. It had only 34 K miles on it from new and very little corrosion. New paint, LOTS of N.O.S. parts, Cromodora magnesium wheels, I threw everything at it... including £500 to have the quarter bumpers straightened and triple plated.
After 3 years, much time and a bit of cash, the day it was finalised I had it MOT and Mrs P and I went for a drive in it. 15 miles or so later, we stopped and looked at each other knowingly; it was a noisy, cramped, slow, 'old' car. The disappointment was almost heart-breaking.
Like so many things of yesteryear, they're best committed to memory and not revisited.
I sold the car some months later having driven less than 200 miles since it was rebuilt. I like to kid myself that I recovered my costs...
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Mine was mostly metal. Apart from the door bottoms:
