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Old 01-03-2017, 01:14 AM
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It's not rocket science. The rubber compound for a winter tire is optimized for winter temps & condition. Idem ditto for summer tires.
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Originally Posted by WinFreak
I've gone from MPSS to winters on the M3 and although they feel a bit vague at speed they are a lot more grippy when it's cold, you can feel the rubber is a lot softer.
That's a side-effect.

The Dunlops that worked so brilliantly on the Civic make the 86 feel very wobbly; sort of like putting the incorrect S-02s on the back of an S2000 did. Since the M3 has fundamentally good geometry, I'd imagine it to be quite similar.

It's great fun >10°C, though; like driving on chocolate teapots and you can go sideways everywhere.
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The block movement of all those little blocks makes them feel soggy too, guess that will warm the tyres up quicker as a benefit


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That's a side-effect.

The Dunlops that worked so brilliantly on the Civic make the 86 feel very wobbly; sort of like putting the incorrect S-02s on the back of an S2000 did. Since the M3 has fundamentally good geometry, I'd imagine it to be quite similar.

It's great fun >10°C, though; like driving on chocolate teapots and you can go sideways everywhere.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:19 PM
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Well we are forecast some sub zero centigrade and then some in a week's time. It will be interesting to hear how everyone gets on though I doubt Steve will be using a Lotus to get round his beat
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It was -4.5° here this morning when getting to work, I'm sure I would've gotten here fine on the summers but it's nice not having to worry about it!
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Originally Posted by WinFreak
It was -4.5° here this morning when getting to work, I'm sure I would've gotten here fine on the summers but it's nice not having to worry about it!
This is what I find interesting. I'm used to 'worrying about it' which is another way of saying driving according to the conditions. I'm conditioned to driving more carefully when it's cold/wet/dark and I don't think any technology can change that mindset and behaviour at this stage in my life.
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Oh I do that too, I'm definitely not one that thinks now I can drive like it was 20 degrees and sunshine because I've got tc on and winter tyres.

I meant that now I know I'll get there whatever the weather does and if it gets worse during the day I know I'll get home. It's nicer than looking out the window all the time hoping it doesn't start snowing!

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Old 01-05-2017, 01:26 AM
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Pity this wasn't a poll there are several schools of thought.

I think every surviving S2000 owner who has used one as daily driver year round will have learned to drive according to conditions, though I agree with Gad the habit is lifelong. But my experience using Norfolk lanes to work and back tells me that every little assistance helps. To be honest the degree of attention needed - on an every second basis - I would not lightly undertake now in a light frisky machine like the S. Although it is a heavier beast, which possibly helps e.g. in motorway downpours it feels secure and planted, the assistance offered by winter tyres for the M makes sense to me. Most road accidents happen within a few miles of home so no chance to warm up slicks.

Reassuring the temperature gauge does negative values Wilf

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