Why don't more people go J-series? What am I missing?
I've been doing a lot of research into a J35a8 (07-08 TL Type-S) swap, and don't understand why it's not more popular. The engines are easily had around $1000, mounts and bell housing adapters are available, you don't have to cut the front cross member or trans tunnel like and LS swap, and it makes as much torque as a 400-450whp boosted F20/22. From my math, the cost also seems drastically less expensive than a boost build. Is it because of the custom exhaust work? I know LS folks use the flyin Miata headers, so there isn't any custom work there. Is it just not exciting enough? Plenty of people on Acurazine making 330-370whp on NA J32/35/37 builds.
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The engine looks like it belongs in that car! Very clean installation. Yours?
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Not mine. Chris Dornon. Shot is from a super street article. He's going boost now.
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Because it is a shitty engine? It's a much less exotic engine with larger displacement and a lot cheaper development and build cost. That's it. And every swap like this is asking for constant issues if the car is actually driven hard consistently. You can't just expect to throw in a bunch of untested stuff and expect it to be reliable. If anyone tells you a swap like his will be reliable is full of shit. The amount of time and effort and testing needed to make something like this as reliable as the engine the car comes with is much more than most people are willing to put in.
It's all well and good to do an engine swap on a car you never drive and call it reliable. Almost all the cars you see with swaps like this are show cars and any issues they have are never brought up. It's not that the engine being swapped in is unreliable, it's that it is a complete unknown on the platform and testing and modifications will be needed overtime to make it issue free. |
they pop on track
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I'd rather not have an s2000 than swap a lazy pedestrian J series into my s2000
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Originally Posted by andrewhake
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Because it is a shitty engine? It's a much less exotic engine with larger displacement and a lot cheaper development and build cost. That's it. And every swap like this is asking for constant issues if the car is actually driven hard consistently. You can't just expect to throw in a bunch of untested stuff and expect it to be reliable. If anyone tells you a swap like his will be reliable is full of shit. The amount of time and effort and testing needed to make something like this as reliable as the engine the car comes with is much more than most people are willing to put in.
It's all well and good to do an engine swap on a car you never drive and call it reliable. Almost all the cars you see with swaps like this are show cars and any issues they have are never brought up. It's not that the engine being swapped in is unreliable, it's that it is a complete unknown on the platform and testing and modifications will be needed overtime to make it issue free. |
Originally Posted by andrewhake
(Post 24379763)
Because it is a shitty engine?.
Originally Posted by andrewhake
(Post 24379763)
It's all well and good to do an engine swap on a car you never drive and call it reliable. Almost all the cars you see with swaps like this are show cars and any issues they have are never brought up. It's not that the engine being swapped in is unreliable, it's that it is a complete unknown on the platform and testing and modifications will be needed overtime to make it issue free.
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You've rotated the motor 90* from original orientation and expect it to hold up on track... there's gonna be issues.
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