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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Hi Guys,

Ive read on here about how twitchy the S can be, and how many people have "lost it", so have always driven with a very light right foot when the roads are even slightly wet.

Not light enough it seems though, as a few weeks back I lost it and spun

Luckily enough it didnt realy do any damage to the car (just took a chunk out of a wheel), but it did damage my confidence as I wasnt pushing it, and it spun a little too easily (also the gf was with me at the time and she was realy spooked about it)

So what to do?

Driver training? I have always intended to get on some sort of driving training day and improve my skills, but Im not convinced it would have stopped what happened - early morning half asleep on the way into work.

Sell it and get something less edgy? I love the car and realy didnt want to change it

Traction control? I started looking around and found Race Logic

After a look on their web site I contacted a few dealers and got chatiting with Peter Jones at MazMania. He has a turbo'ed MX-5 with around 280bhp and uses the RaceLogic system on that, and with almost 300bhp/ton it is a little tail happy!

I was quoted 1 day to fit and decided to go ahead. In the end, it was rather more complex, both Race Logic and Honda had to get involved to sort out the fitting and it took 3 days!

The end result....





Doesnt look like much...but it makes a hell of a difference

In the wet it seems like its on rails and on 10% or 15% it makes things much more controlable if I do want to push the back out.



I know that a number of people on here will veiw this as the ultimate sacrilege, but theres no denying the car is much safer now (and the gf will actualy get back in it now )


PS I do still intend to go on a driver training day when I get the chance, and the traction can be simply switched off for that!
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hong Kong Fooey,Feb 27 2006, 09:05 PM
So what to do?
PM Wampa, he is the TC expert on here.



What was the cost?
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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So how does this one operate? reduces fuel based on wheels spinning?

I always thought this would cause CEL probs for the S, so be interested to know how you got around this.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Are my wheels still ok?
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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I posted about this a while ago

Great product but most concluded that it wasnt needed unless you were quite modified.

I believe that if you spin / slide the car, its the drivers fault and if you drive to the conditions it shouldnt happen. I came from AWD to this car and have learned what it can and cant do ( and what I cant do for that matter) I cant guarantee I wont crash it, bit if I do, it will be my fault - not the car

Where this will help, and I think is the most dangerous incident, is where you are on a wet road with a camber. VTEC will almost always kick the back out and you are generally going at a fair rate. Most dont appreciate this, or dont catch it when it happens! Scary the 1st time too!

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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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[QUOTE=Hong Kong Fooey,Feb 27 2006, 01:05 PM]In the wet it seems like its on rails
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Euan, it totally cuts the fuel. Reducing it may cause det, where cutting it means there's just air.

I thought this would be really jerky, but apparently not! Also thought it wouldnt cause a CEL but cant remember the answer on that one...

MB
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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OK?

They are feckin amazing!


It was one of the reasons that a bought yours (the damage from the spin that is)


Still need to get some decent photos tho Will post them up as soon as I have some
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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phew, I thought you meant you had crashed since!

Glad all is good
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark,Feb 27 2006, 09:14 PM
Where this will help, and I think is the most dangerous incident, is where you are on a wet road with a camber. VTEC will almost always kick the back out and you are generally going at a fair rate. Most dont appreciate this, or dont catch it when it happens! Scary the 1st time too!
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Don't go into VTEC on a wet bend with camber is it just me or is that not obvious??

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