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I purchased a trunk liner and kick panels from slick rick (who I thought to be a legit seller on this board) but what a mistake. Here is the thread he posted for selling his items, which is now locked for some reason???
Here is the history of pm's to show what drove me to this point.
jahnke wrote on 01-07-04 12:19AM:
How much for the kick panels and the trunk liner?
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slick rick wrote on 01-07-04 02:06AM:
jahnke wrote on 01-07-04 06:22AM:
Can you do $65+$$10SH for the trunk liner only? Does it include all of the clips?
What kind of condition is it in?
I'm interested.
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slick rick wrote on 01-07-04 12:30PM:
Let me see.
The condition is perfect. Almost new.
I'll get back to you on that.
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jahnke wrote on 01-10-04 01:06PM:
Do you still have both of them for sale? If so I'll take them. Do you accept paypal?
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slick rick wrote on 01-13-04 09:43AM:
paypal is dkar1@yahoo.com
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jahnke wrote on 01-13-04 05:11PM:
Money sent. Please let me know when you ship. thanks!
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slick rick wrote on 01-13-04 06:47PM:
WHAT'S your address???
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jahnke wrote on 01-13-04 07:40PM:
Charlie Jahnke
xxxxxxxx xxx xxxx
xxxxx xxx xxxxx
Thanks! Let me know when you plan to ship.
Best Regards, Charlie
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jahnke wrote on 01-16-04 08:17PM:
Hey - Just wondering if you have shipped yet?
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slick rick wrote on 01-17-04 02:30PM:
I'm gonna try to ship it out today. At the very least, I will have it ready to go for Monday.
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slick rick wrote on 01-21-04 11:30AM:
What's up bro.
Listen, I hate to string you along, but I have a little bit of a problem. It's not really a problem, but it's taking up more time.
I can't find the driver's side kick panel. I know I have it because I took it off the car and put it somewhere, the question is where. I have stuff at my house, at the shope and at my friend's house. So, I have to go through all my piles of crap, but I WILL find it. I have a feeling I kno w where it is, so I'm gonna look tonight.
Don't worry, everything is cool and youre gonna get y our stuff very soon.
If you need to call me, my phone number is 323 243 7501
David
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jahnke wrote on 01-21-04 03:42PM:
Its not a problem....I'm not too worried otherwise I'd be bugging you more
I really do need the trunk liner asap.....I am doing a custom stereo install in my car (I got a sponsorship from xxxxxx xxxx) and they are starting to ask for picture of the install....the problem is that I need pieces of the trunkliner to complete it. Do you think you could atleast send me the trunk liner first and maybe the kickpanels later when you find them? Let me know.
Thanks!
Charlie
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slick rick wrote on 01-22-04 06:39PM:
I'm going to the shop tonight as my nightmare continues, but if I don't see it there, I'll do what you said.
I know it's there because that's where I bastardized my car.......
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slick rick wrote on 01-24-04 12:03PM:
Ok, I sent everything except the driver's side kick panel.
I know where it is now, so I'll send it in a couple of days.
The shipping came out to $57.XX and the box was 17.95
What I'll do is send the other kick panel to you w/o charge.
It was a lot for shipping because the center piece for the trunk was so big. And you can't bend it. I had to get a wardrobe box.
Can you paypal please........
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jahnke wrote on 01-24-04 04:51PM:
I thought it was $100 for everything? I have to pay for shipping? $57.XX is ridiculous for shipping...
Let me know if I understand you correctly.
Thanks!
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slick rick wrote on 01-25-04 12:30PM:
I just paid 76 bucks for shipping for you.
Obviously it can't be 100 for everything. That would be me selling you the stuff for 24.00
BTW, I found all parts for you too. The package will be complete
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jahnke wrote on 01-25-04 12:48PM:
I am willing to pay for 1/2 of the shipping costs but I have a hard time believing that it cost over $56....the trucj liner is pretty light weight. I just sent 4 wheels across the country for $78. I'm not trying to be difficult that just seems SUPER high.
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slick rick wrote on 01-25-04 12:54PM:
If you want, I'll give you receipts for all the charges.
The center piece was so large, that they had to put it in a special box. That box was 19bux
Then, because it's so big, they went by dimensions, not weight.
Trust me, I have better things to do than to try and rip off fellow s2ki members.
You are more than welcome to measure the box once you get it and get a quote for the shipping back to LA.
I guarantee you will get the same number.
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jahnke wrote on 01-25-04 01:08PM:
I just think that the shipping costs are awfully expensive for something that I thought was included in the price. I'm willing to pay for 1/2 of shipping. I agree that if it was $75 that is very expensive and that you should not have to cover all of that and sell your parts for $25. I also probably would've looked around for a free box to ship the parts in instead of paying $17. I've never charged anyone for a shipping box and I do a lot of transactions on this board and ebay. I thought $100 was a deal....$175 I would have probably passed on it.
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slick rick wrote on 01-26-04 08:22AM:
Well, you need to tell me quickly what you want to do.
The package will leave this morning and I need to know what you want to do.
If you question the shipping charges, I can easily prove everything. I have the receipts from the UPS store and you can even call ups for all I care.
Once again, the reason why it was so expensive was that the center piece was so huge. I looked around for a box and obviously it's not my idea of fun to pay 19 dollars for a box. But, that's what had to happen.
Either way you look at it, you're getting a great deal. This shit would be way more expensive at the dealer and I don't have any control over the shipping.
splitting 76 would mean that I get 62 bux for all the trunk pieces and the two kick panels. Not exactly a fair price imho.
You wanna send me 65, I'll call it a day. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.
Either way, you have to let me know asap.
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jahnke wrote on 01-26-04 11:46AM:
The UPS store is always more expensive to ship from...they mark up the costs like 25%. I'll send you $50 for the shipping which I think is fair.....the box I dont think I should have to pay for....I had to wait a long time for these parts considering I paid right away. I'm not trying to be a dick about it ....if you want to ...give me a call 317-408-6993.
Best Regards,
Charlie
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slick rick wrote on 01-26-04 12:41PM:
They don't mark it up.
Let me k now what you want to do.
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slick rick wrote on 01-27-04 08:44PM:
You know what?
I'm not going to go back and forth about this.
I paid $76 to have your package shipped to you in good faith and in good packaging.
You have my paypal address. Whatever you want to send me is fine.
David
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jahnke wrote on 01-28-04 05:38AM:
I think $50 is fair....I dont think I should have to pay for a box and I waited weeks very patiently for you to ship. I'll send $50 tonight to your paypal account.
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jahnke wrote on 01-28-04 08:08PM:
I sent you $65 for shipping I think thats more than fair. I hope this is acceptable.
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jahnke wrote on 02-01-04 08:21AM:
I was wondering if you have a tracking number's for the trunk liner and the kick panels? It been over a week since you said it shipped and I still have not received anything yet? I sent you $65 for shipping which should cover the $57 for the first shipment and the cost to ship the missing kick panel. Please respond. Thanks!
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slick rick wrote on 02-01-04 01:38PM: http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/process....x=10&track.y=4
or 1zv815f00337241161
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slick rick wrote on 02-01-04 02:10PM:
No, remember I told you I found it in time. I told you that I found the panel in time and was able to put in the ssame package.
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jahnke wrote on 02-01-04 02:11PM:
thanks
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jahnke wrote on 02-04-04 05:24PM:
I received the carpet kit on Monday....I finally had a chance to open the box today. The carpet kit is not as you described which was "condition is perfect. Almost new". This is far from perfect and no where near almost new!
The carpet is dirty not just with loose crap but dark grease stains on atleast 2 pieces. I can send you pics but I am sure you know what I am talking about! You need to make this right.....the item is not as described and I paid almost double what you had originally told me it would cost. I am REALLY not happy about this at all. Please respond ASAP.
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slick rick wrote on 02-04-04 06:52PM:
What?
I took it out with only a couple of miles on my car. What seems to be the problem? This deal is dragging on and on.
What do you want me to do?
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jahnke wrote on 02-04-04 07:14PM:
Well the condition of the carpet kit does not reflect a couple of miles. I can send you pics if you like...for example on the main center piece two chunks of the carpet is missing (about the size of a quarter each). I wouldnt be so mad but I cut up MY PERFECT CARPET kit for my stereo install on the basis that this kit was in perfect condition.
I agree that this deal is dragging on and its your fault. You were the one that waited weeks to ship. I was EXTREMELY patient with you during that time. Rarely did I bug you about shipping the item. Then you ship me this crap!!! I think I am atleast entitled to a significant refund!!! This is the worst transaction I have done on this board....and I have done A LOT!!! :thumbdown:
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slick rick wrote on 02-04-04 08:06PM:
Weeks to ship?
No. That's not what happened and you know it. A few days maybe.
Anyway, I kept you up to date on a daily basis practically and you were the one who short changed me on the shipping.
I was cool with it. Whatever.
But, don't come to me and say it's my fault the transaction is dragging on.
As far as a refund is concerned, we have a couple of choices.
We can undo the deal completely, or figure something out that we can agreee as reasonable.
I'm more than willing to work something out, but I gotta tell you. I don't have much room to move on this because I already paid crazy money for shipping.
What do you want to do?
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jahnke wrote on 02-04-04 09:38PM:
I sent you payment on 1/13/04 via paypal. You didnt ship anything until 1/24/04. That might not be two weeks but its closer to two weeks than a few days.
How can you even say I short changed you for shipping....per you pm it was only $57.XX (which I still think is BS). I sent you $65 which is more than enough to cover the shipping.
YOU DIDNT PAY CRAZY MONEY FOR SHIPPING I DID!!!!!
You tried to charge me $17 for a box for shipping??? Thats fricken ridiculous but I still sent money to split that cost with you too. NOBODY CHARGES FOR A SHIPPING BOX! As far as I am concerned I will ship the stuff back (at my cost) to you and you can send me a full refund ($165).
This carpet is not even close to perfect condition, actually far from. My other recourse is that I will cancel my CC payment and file fraud charges with paypal. Its up to you. Let me know tomorrow what you want to do.
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slick rick wrote on 02-05-04 11:25AM:
You can do wahtever youwant.
But, don't threaten me with your piddly fraud charges. If I give you your money back, it's because I want to and nothing else.
I don't care what you do or who you call.
If you every so much as threaten me, you will never hear from me again.
So, try to remain civilized and let's try to work this out like adults, not some kids. OK?
I just got to work and have to go. I'll get a hold of you later.
Dk
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jahnke wrote on 02-05-04 05:35PM:
You need to tone it down a bit....I am not threating you and I think I am trying to work this out in a civlized manner. All I am giving you is options....its up to you what direction you want to take this...
All I want is a full refund ($165) and I will send the stuff back to you. I cant use this trunk liner in the condition it is in. Please send refund via paypal to charliejahnke@yahoo.com .
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slick rick wrote on 02-06-04 01:57AM:
So, let me ask you this:
Where is the logic in me losing cash on the transaction?
Another thing. I have 2 ppl who saw the carpet before I shipped it. Neither one of us has seen any grease stains.
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jahnke wrote on 02-06-04 05:46AM:
You are amazing.... You sell me a significantly less than perfect product and you tell me "Where is the logic in me losing cash on the transaction?". What about me the buyer who is getting ripped off! What your doing is NO different than stealing!
Look, I am asking you to do the right thing since you sent me less than a perfect trunk liner and you described it in perfect condtion. The trunk liner has chunks of carpet missing in several spots and some darker areas that appears to be grease or dirt stains. I can send you pics if you want.
I am not going to keep going back and forth with you on this...I am offering to send you pics of what I am talking about but in the tone of your emails I am sure you already know. I had another reputable member of s2ki take a look at the carpet and can verify what I am talking about.
You have two option that in my opinion will resolve this...
1.) Refund my money and I send you your trunkliner back.
2.) I go to paypal file a report. I go to my credit card company and cancel the charge.
Its upto you. I am trying to handle this fairly but you are making this more and more difficult. I have done TONS of transactions on this board (both as a buyer and a seller). I have over 34 positive feedbacks on ebay. Let me know what you are doing today. Like I said I am not going to keep dragging this out.
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slick rick wrote on 02-06-04 02:29PM:
Yeah, I've done TONS of transactions too.
Never one complaint.
I've been on this board for a long time and have much, much better things to do with my time than to rip off other members.
I do not know of any chunks of carpet missing. That's what I'm saying. Send me pictures if you want, I'll show them to my friends who helped me and hopefully we can figure this out.
I don't know? Maybe somethin happened with UPS? Have you tried talking to them? the shipment was insured.
I don't know how this happened, but all I can tell you is that I would never sell anythign that was damaged knowingly.
let me know.
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jahnke wrote on 02-06-04 04:49PM:
I'll send you some pictures tomorrow. I need to recharge the battery in my digital camera.
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slick rick wrote on 02-06-04 06:04PM:
No problem.
I will be out tomorrow, but will be back late in the evening.
I will check them out and then talk to you.
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jahnke wrote on 02-07-04 02:14PM:
Here are 9 pictures of dirt and missing chunks. I think only one of the pictures is a duplicate spot. There are many more small dirt spots I could take pictures of but I feel 9 is enough. I would like to know soon if you are going to be a reputable seller and give me a full refund. I think the pictures are indisputable. None of this damage could have occured during shipping since there is no damage to the box.
Back piece
Hole on other side of back piece
Dirt stains
Side Piece
Main piece
Dirt stains on main piece by tool kit
Chunk missing on main piece
More dirt and scuffs
Dirt on other side of main piece by tool kit
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slick rick wrote on 02-08-04 02:04PM:
Those 'chunks' that are missing are the holes for the clips.
The chunk in the center that y ou're pointing at was DEFINATELY not there when I shipped it. It looks more like something was chaffing against it when it was being shipped.
Irregardless, I will show these pictures to my friends who helped me ship it to confirm.
I will meet with them tomorrow night (hopefully) and I will talk to you after that.
Dk
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jahnke wrote on 02-08-04 02:16PM:
Those are not the holes for the clips...dont patronize me like I dont know what I am talking about. I have another S2000 trunkliner and know what the mounting holes look like, remember that I own the car!!!! I know the difference between the mounting holes and the damaged areas around them.
Since it seems like you have no intention of making this right, I guess we can do this the hard way. I will start filing fraud claims with my credit card company and paypal tomorrow. I will also post on s2ki the pictures of the crappy product you sent to me and let everyone know what a scammer you are. I have gone out of my way to be patient with you but this is it.....I am not delaying the inevitable any longer.
FYI - All threads in the marketplace get locked after 90 days. This is to prevent people from bringing back old threads and asking if the item is still available.
ok. Here is his latest response as well as mine....this guys seems alright (yeah right! This guy is a TOOL!!! Thank god for MC!
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slick rick wrote on 02-08-04 06:01PM:
I told you before, and I'll say it again.
If you threaten me, you punk, you get nothing.
Is that clear?
Calling me a scammer takes a lot of balls from someone who's never met me..........why don't you say that to my face?
I have done DOZENS of transactions on this board and most of them for A LOT MORE MONEY. Do you really think that I have nothing better to do than punk around some anal retentive kid?
I have LOTS of better things to do, and ripping off fellow members on this board is not one of them.
Now, if you want to work something out, you're gonna have to wait until my friends see the pictures so that we can figure out what happened because to my recollection, the items were not like that when we shipped them.
So take a chill pill and relax b4 you get a stroke or something and let me show these pictures to my friends.
Peace.
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jahnke wrote on 02-08-04 06:12PM:
Its not a threat. This is what I am doing. I gave you a number of times to make this right and you refused. This is what you get!
I am not worried about saying this to your face...you have my address come on out....
I have done TONS of transactions on this board (both as a buyer and a seller). I have over 34 positive feedbacks on ebay. Let me know what you are doing today. Like I said I am not going to keep dragging this out.
I do hope everything works out.
. I doubt he is going to do anything. The only chance I have is with my credit card company.
