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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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I recall years ago a few owners posting about 2nd gear grind at high rpm's when shifting rapidly when the engine was extremely warm. My MY01 has 39k miles on her and I experienced substantial grind while shifting into 2nd at about 6k rpm at least 4 times in a 300 mile period while on a trip to Lancaster, N.H. this weekend. At least one time I recall getting some substancial grind while shifting quite slowly.
Anyone else still experiencing this problem? My car won't be 3 years old till January. Am I still covered for this on my drivetrain warranty?
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Before you do anything else, change your tranny fluid with the Honda MTF. It may solve your problem without any tearing down of the tranny.
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsche951,Aug 29 2004, 02:08 PM
I recall years ago a few owners posting about 2nd gear grind at high rpm's when shifting rapidly when the engine was extremely warm. My MY01 has 39k miles on her and I experienced substantial grind while shifting into 2nd at about 6k rpm at least 4 times in a 300 mile period while on a trip to Lancaster, N.H. this weekend. At least one time I recall getting some substancial grind while shifting quite slowly.
Anyone else still experiencing this problem? My car won't be 3 years old till January. Am I still covered for this on my drivetrain warranty?
I just checked the warranty on the AHM OwnerLink and it is 3 years or 36,000 miles.

Mine likes to grind once in a blue moon for no apparent reason and it's most likely to do this when I'm taking it easy.

I agree with the suggestion of new MTF, if you haven't already changed it.
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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I changed my MTF and it did not help. Mine will grind when I shift rapidly at 6,000+ rpm I must have the clutch all the way to the floor before I even begin the shift or else it will grind.
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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I recommend Redline MTL

I had Redline and switched back to Honda's last month to see if there was a difference , now my grind is back .I will be switching back to Redline very soon.
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Thanks for the tip Scott. I'm very worried about my second gear and the second gear synchros wearing out prematurely. Did the Redline eliminate the grind? I have a habit of "short stepping" the clutch when I drive. I know how far to depress it to disengage and I do it by second nature so I don't push the clutch pedal all the way down unless I am really thinking of it. Funny thing is, all my other gears are quiet with me shifting the same way. It is just second gear.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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I changed it last year with Honda'sMTF. I think I might try Royal Purple this time. My son tried it in his GSX and it made a world of difference.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Bill , I have no grind if I shift properly. You will notice the whole range of gears will be smoother . I notice the difference the first morning that I wasn't running the Redline anymore.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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MY02 would grind from 1st-->2nd periodically. It went away after I replaced the clutch... Of course mine did it from the beginning.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jmrobins,Aug 30 2004, 07:14 PM
MY02 would grind from 1st-->2nd periodically. It went away after I replaced the clutch... Of course mine did it from the beginning.
Same here, but I'm not sure if it's gone for good....

My 02 was fine for the first 5000 miles or so, then the grind appeared and kept getting worst. I tried changing MTF (thanks to Steve) but it made no differnce.

After the clutch work, the grind seems to have gone away but but I occasionally get a really bad (metal/metal) feeling as I'm shifting that tells me something's wrong. I'm still not happy with how it shifts. In fact, it sucks really bad some days. It seems to be better on rainy days - ironic.

Bad design, imo, can't do anything about it...

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