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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Default External Resevoirs and Shock Travel

I noticed that alot of aftermarket coilover suspensions for the S2000 lack external resevoirs in the rear shock where as the stock shocks have the external resevoirs. I have heard before on this forum that those single bodied shocks have less suspension travel due to not having external resevoirs. Can someone explain why that is?

Having used the search function already, i came up with this thread:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...&f=11&t=256986

And here is a quote from Krazik:
"I meant more along the lines of many of the single bodied rear shocks (JIC, Ohlins, BuddyClub, etc) have a problem of not enuf rear travel/droop."

--Does this mean the more droop you have, the more suspension travel?

I just sold my Tein RA suspension and will be driving my car with stock suspension for awhile. I know that the stock suspension is great but my car is a daily driver and i want it to also look good. Thus, i am hoping to pick up a set of KW V3's in a about 2 months but want to make sure that those are the shocks i want before i put down 2 grand on them. Thanks in advance!
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Try to picture that little hose not being there, and that extra resevoir is connected to the bottom of the shock, making the shock an extra 3-4 inches longer, there's your longer shock travel. I'm a mere novice in this realm of motorsports, some of the smarter fellas will chime in and bust you with mad technacalities yo!
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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yes

What he said. The nitrogen and the piston between the n2 & oil are in the remote resevoirs in those type of shocks allowing the shock piston to utilize the full shock body for travel. Single Bodied shocks have to make room for this in the body of the shock and they can reduce the travel almost in half.

Our rear shocks are too short to have both in a single body. The fronts would be ok, but this is the reason the shocks come from the factory w/ a remote resv.

Yes get the KW's you'll be happy w/ them. Stay away from the JDM crap (with a few exceptions).

I laugh at these guys that buy Buddy Club, JIC, etc then try to lower the car only making the travel problem worse. They mistake stiffness from higher spring rates of better handling.

-Ry
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Thanks, i see now . So its safe to say that the KW's and other shocks with external resevoirs have about 3-4 more inches of travel than those suspension systems with single bodied shock?
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Don't worry about the technicalities. Just get what's proven to work. The guys here found that the KW's work well and may be the best for the price. You may be able to get better, but at a much higher price.

Ry, check PM.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Moton 4 ways are your best bet.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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The KW's definitely have more travel , I could feel it the first drive. It provides grip in the rear

Now I wish there was a way to add more droop travel in the rear suspension.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rlaifatt,Aug 6 2005, 04:26 PM
Don't worry about the technicalities. Just get what's proven to work. The guys here found that the KW's work well and may be the best for the price. You may be able to get better, but at a much higher price.

Ry, check PM.
I think I have to agree with that statement. I got all worried about the specifics and technicalities because of a couple peoples comments. I didn't even test out the coilovers and was doing all these calculations to see if there was indeed enough travel. After installation of my coilovers (only two days) and only street/canyon driving so far. I have to say I was worried over nothing really. I ordered what I needed, had it valved for the spring rates I wanted. I should have had no worries. I ordered my shocks from Asia and not here because nobody knows or have had much experience with JDM coilovers here. I mean either way I have to send these back to Japan to have any work done on it, so why not buy it there then here. But the racers I know in Asia mentioned that I will be fine with these shocks. Got all wild up over nothing really. Like the guy said, just order what is proven I guess so you don't have to worry too much like me. I'll see if the coilovers I got will perform up to par after some track days. But until then, still a lot of guessing.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gfacter,Aug 7 2005, 12:04 PM
The KW's definitely have more travel , I could feel it the first drive. It provides grip in the rear

Now I wish there was a way to add more droop travel in the rear suspension.
remove the rear swaybar
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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The rear bar is limiting the rear arm travel?, can't I just make the links longer?

I don't think I have enough spring to remove the bar. I am getting understeer now already.
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