Alright guys. Enough of this arguing about Supercharger and Turbos and everything. Theoretically, you are all right. So how about we try to get this theory into some real life testing. The only way we'll get a good, decent priced super/turbo kit is is we show interest. Thats why no one produces them. They don't think they can sell them. So how about we all show that there is interest in a kit, and then send our feedback to corporations like Jackson Racing, HKS, and all the other major manufacturers of FI products. What I would like to see is everyone post their expectations for the design of a FI system, and then we can send all the responses to the companies. Then if you all go to the companies and e-mail them or call them and personally show interest, we should see some kind of response.

So we need three things from everyone:

1. Expectations for a kit.
2. A list of who you would like to see produce a kit ( JR, HKS, etc.)
3. Encouragement for manufacturers.

And be realistic. We aren't going to get a kit thats the same price as one for a civic, prelude, mustang, or even supra. It just won't happen. Its basic Freshman year economics. So lets have some positive feedback and get something going!

Blake

P.S. These are companies, not the government, so yes, many people sending in their feelings on something WILL get a response!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by infinitebass
[B]Alright guys. Enough of this arguing about Supercharger and Turbos and everything. Theoretically, you are all right. So how about we try to get this theory into some real life testing. The only way we'll get a good, decent priced super/turbo kit is is we show interest. Thats why no one produces them. They don't think they can sell them. So how about we all show that there is interest in a kit, and then send our feedback to corporations like Jackson Racing, HKS, and all the other major manufacturers of FI products. What I would like to see is everyone post their expectations for the design of a FI system, and then we can send all the responses to the companies. Then if you all go to the companies and e-mail them or call them and personally show interest, we should see some kind of response.

 

I know where you are coming from, but the reason its not a popular platform to mod is because aftermarket products are so expensive because there is virtually no competition. I'm willing to bet that most of the corporations think there is less of a market than there really is. How many people do you hear say "I wish they had that for my S2000!" There are a large number of products people want. Go to the threads about the new vortec superchargers. How many people are saying I'd buy it if it did such and such at such and such price? The corporations just don't see a market right now, when there really is. We have to show them that there is a market. We have to create some demand and let the companies know that hey, yes, we will buy your stuff.

Even if I am completely wrong, so what? We can't do crap about the production numbers. Honda's not blind. They can't keep them in stock. They know if they brought 10,000 over, they'd sell them. So what does it hurt to try to make some noise? It can't set us back, and maybe it will have a positive outcome. Lets try to do work on something that we do have some sort of control over.

Blake

 

The companies selling products for this car seem to think that if you own an S2000, you must have a virtuall limitless budget. I for one do not and I get irritated with all the damn price gouging. I have three requirements before I buy a FI system (preferably a SC - I don't like turbo lag - heck, I just don't like turbos).

1. Make a lot of power.
2. Take care of basic tuning and make sure the kit is reliable.
3. Don't charge a $2000 premium because the brackets just so happen to be for an S2000 instead of a Mustang. Keep the price where it's supposed to be.

 

I have no interest in a supercharger or a turbo. Three reasons: 1. The car has plenty of performance as is, everytime I even get close to letting it perform, I'm on someone's bumper. The car is great as is. 2. The more you accessorize your car, the less the resale value. Anyone buying a new car wants it stock for several reasons. A souped up used car is one indication that the vehicle was driven hard, maybe harder than it should be. Additionally, by the time the car is used a few years, there is new technology in new cars. A potential buyer of a used car often believes that by accessorizing it himself, he will bring it up to or past the new technology. 3. A final issue is that either of these items may void the warrany. If you fry any component of your drive line, and the engine has been modified to increase torque and hp, then it will not be covered.

 

Dave T, I don't believe I was asking for people not to help. I was looking for people to help encourage companies. If You want to discuss why you don't want a turbo/supercharger, start your own thread. There are plenty of people who do want relatively decent priced aftermarket parts. This is a thread for them.

Blake

 

I personally think that superchargers are much safer for a stock engine. Turboing a non turbo car always presents a risk. If it was meant to be turboed, then it would of had a stock turbo

 

I'd go for either a Supercharger or a Turbocharger as long as they were CARB approved, here in California. Also, the pricing would have to be between 3-5 grand. I can get a Comptech Supercharger for around 3, but I'd rather wait a while and see what gets developed.

Jaykkub

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by infinitebass
[B]Dave T, I don't believe I was asking for people not to help. I was looking for people to help encourage companies. If You want to discuss why you don't want a turbo/supercharger, start your own thread. There are plenty of people who do want relatively decent priced aftermarket parts. This is a thread for them.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by infinitebass
[B]I know where you are coming from, but the reason its not a popular platform to mod is because aftermarket products are so expensive because there is virtually no competition. I'm willing to bet that most of the corporations think there is less of a market than there really is. How many people do you hear say "I wish they had that for my S2000!" There are a large number of products people want. Go to the threads about the new vortec superchargers. How many people are saying I'd buy it if it did such and such at such and such price? The corporations just don't see a market right now, when there really is. We have to show them that there is a market. We have to create some demand and let the companies know that hey, yes, we will buy your stuff.