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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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wt is the diff between Summer Tires and All-Seaon Tires
is it, summer mean only dry days, and all season mean dry and wet
or it say, summer is for dry and wet, and all season is for dry, wet and snow, or cold weather

thank you, i have this question because i hear 2 diff version
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Summer more performance... Higher performance worst in rain, snow not that the S with any tires will be that good in the snow. All season better in the rain but cant keep up with the "better" summer tires on a nice warm day, on some twisty's all depends on what type of driving your looking to do.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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i just ask that for my gf's 03 accord haha
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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All-seasons are NOT better in the rain in warm weather than good SUMMER performance tires, quite the contrary. Softer-compound tires grip better in the dry AND in the wet.

In fact, R-compound racing tires grip MUCH better than street tires in the wet as long as there's no standing water.

If you want maximum wet grip, and will not be operating in cold weather and/or snow, Maximum Performance tires with good water-channeling grooves are your best bet.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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BTW, I just did a track event at New Hampshire Motor Speedway over the weekend, and I'm still on DOT R-compounds. Today I had to drive from New Bedford Mass to Boston (~50 mi.), then back down to Providence RI (~50 mi.), in an absolutely torrential downpour. No problem. In fact, they weren't even as bad as I expected over standing water.

Anyway, "Summer tires" does not mean, "no good in the wet". It does rain in the Summer, you know!
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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All season is what you want if you are going to be driving in all weather conditions which generally means you can use it in the winter. So it is a year round tire.

Summer is better in the dry, and sometimes in the wet as stated above. You can probably use it 9 months out of the year unless you get a lot of snow, or it gets really cold.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Apr 6 2009, 02:14 PM
BTW, I just did a track event at New Hampshire Motor Speedway over the weekend, and I'm still on DOT R-compounds. Today I had to drive from New Bedford Mass to Boston (~50 mi.), then back down to Providence RI (~50 mi.), in an absolutely torrential downpour. No problem. In fact, they weren't even as bad as I expected over standing water.

Anyway, "Summer tires" does not mean, "no good in the wet". It does rain in the Summer, you know!
what about when its cold and raining?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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All out summer tire will feel like your tires are plastic in 35f and below? How is is that for an answer.

Now my all Out Summer Falken 452 tires are Amazing in the dry above 60f weather and known to be great which I can vouch for in the rain as well.

All seasons have different compound which doesn't harden like summers in freezing conditions and feel much more safe. .
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ericshun,Apr 6 2009, 03:00 PM
what about when its cold and raining?
If you're at the track and will be putting some heat into the tires (take it easy for a couple of laps of course!), you can run in the wet/rain at near-freezing temperatures.

In the real world, where you won't be heating the tires up as much, probably anything below 40*F you should be careful on Summer tires particularly if you're driving at low speeds (i.e. not putting any heat into the tires).
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Summer tires turn into hockey pucks around 35-40 degrees. They grip better when warm than AS tires. They are phenomenal in the rain if you get a good pair. That's it.
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