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I remember not long ago that someone on this board posted a thread about this. I think he was having a lot of "issues" with it. Try a search but I'm not sure it'll turn anything up. I'm having trouble with the new search engine.
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I saw a thread like that. The owner actually lost HP over the V-AFC! I know they had a Turbo, haven't heard anyone that's NA say anything about it. What I have heard is that it is VERY DIFFICULT!
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Originally posted by S2K1
I saw a thread like that. The owner actually lost HP over the V-AFC! I know they had a Turbo, haven't heard anyone that's NA say anything about it. What I have heard is that it is VERY DIFFICULT!
I saw a thread like that. The owner actually lost HP over the V-AFC! I know they had a Turbo, haven't heard anyone that's NA say anything about it. What I have heard is that it is VERY DIFFICULT!
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From: Savannah
I cant speak for a turbo setup but I will say this... It does make power if you spend the time and money like I did to get it right. YES, the A/C works fine.
At the time I had the following mods: DC header, HKS exhaust, stock intake.
This is the low-down: Baseline run: 193.7 hp., 129 lb./ft. torque
Add Vafc: 212 hp., 134 lb/ft. torque
Deleted Vafc, Add EMS: 224 hp., 145 lb/ft. torque.
Add Toda Cams: 237 hp, 156 lb/ft. torque
The AEM EMS added 31 hp over stock condition and 12 over a Vafc on the same setup. I added the Toda cams and made another 13 on top and more torque.
Where the EMS makes a huge difference is under the curve though. It made a hell of a lot of power from 5000-7000, a lot more than stock. With my tuning complete you could no longer perceive Vtec. It was nice. Very strong.
I have since changed my setup to what you see below. I dont know any dyno numbers yet, but it feels stronger. I can chirp 3rd gear on my current setup, which was never possible.
The downside to the EMS? It has a hard time getting the crank fuel mixture right on a hot engine. Also, it tends to load up at low RPM's, but that's because I made the engine so responsive down low. Hit the gas once and the engine would rocket right up to 4500-5000. Very responsive, yet not very tame. I would not recommend running it on a daily driver, as you'll be stopping for gas every 150-175 miles, depending on how heavy your foot. The absolute best I could get was 200 miles. I now go 275-300 on my current setup, so you can see that the EMS will really hurt your economy.
As for the Toda cams, well you can believe what you want. I've heard a lot of people talking about them and putting them down. My question to those people is, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THEM IN YOUR CAR??. Thank you. I do. Want an honest opinion? I have them in my can and I have had them for about 3 months now... They make more of a difference midrange area, not on top. I figured them to be all topend but I was quite wrong. Definately worth the money.
P.S. If you have the EMS and maps that work, not the SHIT that AEM puts out, contact me. I saved all my maps.
Chris
At the time I had the following mods: DC header, HKS exhaust, stock intake.
This is the low-down: Baseline run: 193.7 hp., 129 lb./ft. torque
Add Vafc: 212 hp., 134 lb/ft. torque
Deleted Vafc, Add EMS: 224 hp., 145 lb/ft. torque.
Add Toda Cams: 237 hp, 156 lb/ft. torque
The AEM EMS added 31 hp over stock condition and 12 over a Vafc on the same setup. I added the Toda cams and made another 13 on top and more torque.
Where the EMS makes a huge difference is under the curve though. It made a hell of a lot of power from 5000-7000, a lot more than stock. With my tuning complete you could no longer perceive Vtec. It was nice. Very strong.
I have since changed my setup to what you see below. I dont know any dyno numbers yet, but it feels stronger. I can chirp 3rd gear on my current setup, which was never possible.
The downside to the EMS? It has a hard time getting the crank fuel mixture right on a hot engine. Also, it tends to load up at low RPM's, but that's because I made the engine so responsive down low. Hit the gas once and the engine would rocket right up to 4500-5000. Very responsive, yet not very tame. I would not recommend running it on a daily driver, as you'll be stopping for gas every 150-175 miles, depending on how heavy your foot. The absolute best I could get was 200 miles. I now go 275-300 on my current setup, so you can see that the EMS will really hurt your economy.
As for the Toda cams, well you can believe what you want. I've heard a lot of people talking about them and putting them down. My question to those people is, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THEM IN YOUR CAR??. Thank you. I do. Want an honest opinion? I have them in my can and I have had them for about 3 months now... They make more of a difference midrange area, not on top. I figured them to be all topend but I was quite wrong. Definately worth the money.
P.S. If you have the EMS and maps that work, not the SHIT that AEM puts out, contact me. I saved all my maps.
Chris
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From: Virginia Beach, VA
Hey Hams2000
Is there a big difference between the standard Toda cams and the Toda Cams Sucka! you have on your car? I'd like to see dyno comparisons before I commit to either the base cams or the Sucka! versions.
Is there a big difference between the standard Toda cams and the Toda Cams Sucka! you have on your car? I'd like to see dyno comparisons before I commit to either the base cams or the Sucka! versions.
