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LostMotion 08-16-2007 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by vader1,Aug 16 2007, 09:22 AM
$2,700 might be worth it IF I could see what they do alone to a stock car. Preferably verified by a couple buyers dyno sheets and not just one from Hytech.

If there were a few people saying "I bought the Hytech cams, (and maybe header) and here are my before and after dynos. I love it!" then I would take the plunge.

But when this stuff gets mixed into a sheet (no offense Mines, its an impressive graph) where someone has several other pieces like ITB's and EMS, (two pieces that do not appeal to me) then I can not judge what does what. I'd do emanage, but once you start to add EMS, ITB's on top of the price for cams, it gets much more expensive than off the shelf FI. NA is cool at those power levels, I just don't wanna spend $7000 for 50-60 hp. If I decide to spend that much to stay NA it will be with an Elise.

If you start doing cost/hp analysis on NA verus FI you will quickly see that FI wins everytime without fail and by a wide margin.

Not everything is in the dyno sheets.

Cheese Steak Nazi 08-16-2007 12:23 PM

IMO Leave the stock ones in. You could make more power but how much more for how much money. I guess thats one of the Downsides to the S2000's valveTrain, being that its pretty much at its peak stock.

vader1 08-16-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by carrera4,Aug 16 2007, 01:50 PM
If you start doing cost/hp analysis on NA verus FI you will quickly see that FI wins everytime without fail and by a wide margin.

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I agree 100%, but FI also adds complexity. I would be fine with complexity as long as I could find someone around here who can tune and knows what they are doing.

I am sure there is somebody, I just have not looked hard enough to find one yet.

MINES13 08-16-2007 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by carrera4,Aug 16 2007, 11:50 AM
If you start doing cost/hp analysis on NA verus FI you will quickly see that FI wins everytime without fail and by a wide margin.

Not everything is in the dyno sheets.

As far as peak numbers are concerned aboslutely. You are right about everything not showing up on the dyno. That is where an NA setup like mine shines. My engine is vastly more responsive then any turbo or supercharged setup could ever dream of. Think 1000cc sport bike engine acceleration.

zbrewha863 08-17-2007 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Cheese Steak Nazi,Aug 16 2007, 12:23 PM
I guess thats one of the Downsides to the S2000's valveTrain, being that its pretty much at its peak stock.

How is that a downside at all?

LostMotion 08-17-2007 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by MINES13,Aug 16 2007, 12:36 PM
As far as peak numbers are concerned aboslutely. You are right about everything not showing up on the dyno. That is where an NA setup like mine shines. My engine is vastly more responsive then any turbo or supercharged setup could ever dream of. Think 1000cc sport bike engine acceleration.

That's why I am going built NA.

Urge 08-18-2007 01:44 PM

Guys, this is my sale. New lower pricing.

Price includes shipping, valve springs and Ti Retainers..

Tyraid2K 08-19-2007 07:46 AM

That dyno that was produced is suspect. I just can't believe that it's just a cam setup. what was teh intake and exhaust situation...

Or was it with ITBs already?

John_Z 08-19-2007 09:26 AM

What was the baseline prior to the cam install? What were the numbers pre-tune then post-tune with just cams?

MINES13 08-19-2007 03:51 PM

My baseline was 237. The mods are in my sig.


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