Spoon Rigid Collars installed and tested on stock AP2
#31
Don't remove all the bolts at once. Back all of them out together, a few inches, with a jack under for safety. Then remove ONE of them completely, install collar, and insert new bolt part way. Repeat 5 times for other bolts. Then SLOWLY and CAREFULLY snug up the bolts so that the collars seat properly in the bolt holes and subframe. Torque them and you're done.
#32
I just installed my set this weekend. I have to admit I was a tad skeptical and I figured I wouldn't really notice much of a difference. But, I figured what the heck, it wasn't that much money, and I guess at the time I had some extra money to burn.
After a couple of days driving, mostly freeway driving to and from work, I keep trying to be disappointed (playing devils advocate) but then I go over some bumps that used to upset my chassis and I can't deny the improvement is substantial. I know it's hard to believe, because I have a hard time believing such a thing could make such a difference.
There is this freeway ramp I take at high speeds, and it has these bumps or ridges that, before, would cause my rear end to wiggle or shimmy going over them, almost feeling like the rear end was gonna spin out. It wasn't a good feeling in a high speed turn. Now the tires are just planted. Similarly, sometimes when changing lanes and I go over those white dots, my back tires would feel like they were skipping along and the back end would wiggle a lot. Especially if I was accelerating. Now it's just gone. Drama-free. I feel little bumps as like a tight drum feel in my hands and butt, rather than like a boom. It's hard to describe but everything feels tighter.
I know people will continue to be critical and skeptical, and that's ok, it's good to be skeptical sometimes. But all I can say is I'm very happy I took a chance on these.
After a couple of days driving, mostly freeway driving to and from work, I keep trying to be disappointed (playing devils advocate) but then I go over some bumps that used to upset my chassis and I can't deny the improvement is substantial. I know it's hard to believe, because I have a hard time believing such a thing could make such a difference.
There is this freeway ramp I take at high speeds, and it has these bumps or ridges that, before, would cause my rear end to wiggle or shimmy going over them, almost feeling like the rear end was gonna spin out. It wasn't a good feeling in a high speed turn. Now the tires are just planted. Similarly, sometimes when changing lanes and I go over those white dots, my back tires would feel like they were skipping along and the back end would wiggle a lot. Especially if I was accelerating. Now it's just gone. Drama-free. I feel little bumps as like a tight drum feel in my hands and butt, rather than like a boom. It's hard to describe but everything feels tighter.
I know people will continue to be critical and skeptical, and that's ok, it's good to be skeptical sometimes. But all I can say is I'm very happy I took a chance on these.
#33
I just installed my set this weekend. I have to admit I was a tad skeptical and I figured I wouldn't really notice much of a difference. But, I figured what the heck, it wasn't that much money, and I guess at the time I had some extra money to burn.
After a couple of days driving, mostly freeway driving to and from work, I keep trying to be disappointed (playing devils advocate) but then I go over some bumps that used to upset my chassis and I can't deny the improvement is substantial. I know it's hard to believe, because I have a hard time believing such a thing could make such a difference.
There is this freeway ramp I take at high speeds, and it has these bumps or ridges that, before, would cause my rear end to wiggle or shimmy going over them, almost feeling like the rear end was gonna spin out. It wasn't a good feeling in a high speed turn. Now the tires are just planted. Similarly, sometimes when changing lanes and I go over those white dots, my back tires would feel like they were skipping along and the back end would wiggle a lot. Especially if I was accelerating. Now it's just gone. Drama-free. I feel little bumps as like a tight drum feel in my hands and butt, rather than like a boom. It's hard to describe but everything feels tighter.
I know people will continue to be critical and skeptical, and that's ok, it's good to be skeptical sometimes. But all I can say is I'm very happy I took a chance on these.
After a couple of days driving, mostly freeway driving to and from work, I keep trying to be disappointed (playing devils advocate) but then I go over some bumps that used to upset my chassis and I can't deny the improvement is substantial. I know it's hard to believe, because I have a hard time believing such a thing could make such a difference.
There is this freeway ramp I take at high speeds, and it has these bumps or ridges that, before, would cause my rear end to wiggle or shimmy going over them, almost feeling like the rear end was gonna spin out. It wasn't a good feeling in a high speed turn. Now the tires are just planted. Similarly, sometimes when changing lanes and I go over those white dots, my back tires would feel like they were skipping along and the back end would wiggle a lot. Especially if I was accelerating. Now it's just gone. Drama-free. I feel little bumps as like a tight drum feel in my hands and butt, rather than like a boom. It's hard to describe but everything feels tighter.
I know people will continue to be critical and skeptical, and that's ok, it's good to be skeptical sometimes. But all I can say is I'm very happy I took a chance on these.
Don't forget, they're available for nearly every make and model, not just Hondas. On non-sports cars, you get improved tire wear, stability, and comfort.
#34
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I just installed my set this weekend. I have to admit I was a tad skeptical and I figured I wouldn't really notice much of a difference. But, I figured what the heck, it wasn't that much money, and I guess at the time I had some extra money to burn.
After a couple of days driving, mostly freeway driving to and from work, I keep trying to be disappointed (playing devils advocate) but then I go over some bumps that used to upset my chassis and I can't deny the improvement is substantial. I know it's hard to believe, because I have a hard time believing such a thing could make such a difference.
There is this freeway ramp I take at high speeds, and it has these bumps or ridges that, before, would cause my rear end to wiggle or shimmy going over them, almost feeling like the rear end was gonna spin out. It wasn't a good feeling in a high speed turn. Now the tires are just planted. Similarly, sometimes when changing lanes and I go over those white dots, my back tires would feel like they were skipping along and the back end would wiggle a lot. Especially if I was accelerating. Now it's just gone. Drama-free. I feel little bumps as like a tight drum feel in my hands and butt, rather than like a boom. It's hard to describe but everything feels tighter.
I know people will continue to be critical and skeptical, and that's ok, it's good to be skeptical sometimes. But all I can say is I'm very happy I took a chance on these.
After a couple of days driving, mostly freeway driving to and from work, I keep trying to be disappointed (playing devils advocate) but then I go over some bumps that used to upset my chassis and I can't deny the improvement is substantial. I know it's hard to believe, because I have a hard time believing such a thing could make such a difference.
There is this freeway ramp I take at high speeds, and it has these bumps or ridges that, before, would cause my rear end to wiggle or shimmy going over them, almost feeling like the rear end was gonna spin out. It wasn't a good feeling in a high speed turn. Now the tires are just planted. Similarly, sometimes when changing lanes and I go over those white dots, my back tires would feel like they were skipping along and the back end would wiggle a lot. Especially if I was accelerating. Now it's just gone. Drama-free. I feel little bumps as like a tight drum feel in my hands and butt, rather than like a boom. It's hard to describe but everything feels tighter.
I know people will continue to be critical and skeptical, and that's ok, it's good to be skeptical sometimes. But all I can say is I'm very happy I took a chance on these.
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Originally Posted by s2000ellier
didn't you buy the generic ones?
#39
I installed TyrolSport's Rigid collars on my MKV GTI and not only did it eliminate the infamous "subframe clunk", it also made my car feel more planted/composed. I think I'm going to buy the Manzo ones and give those a shot on my S2000.