Detail before Paint / Fix Dent
 

Got an odd ball question for you guys.... Would it be better to get a detail (with paint correction) before I get a dent fixed/painted? The end goal is to have the paint mathcing when the dent is fixed. My driver side door was hit while I was parked. The door needs to be painted & part of the quarter as well. The car's paint is in real bad shape!! What would you guys do? I guess what would make the most sense is to have the dent fixed and wait a month to have the car detailed. But my concern is that the body shop will paint match to the paint's current condition (does that even make sense?).

It makes total sense.

Painters do a walk-around in various lighting to paint match.

I would definitely do the detail first if its that much of a variation.

agree with Billman...

Yes, in addition to the above, have them spray sample cards of ALL of the manufacturer paint variations and ask to see them before they begin spraying. For example, Honda has two variations for Berlina Black. Some colors have 3-4 variations from Honda. I went through this last year with my bumper and since the rest of my paint is nearly pristine I didn't want any of it touched that didn't have to be (one place insisted on blending and I said no way). If you start with the cleanest paint possible you'll be able to pick the best variation and get damn close to a 100% match. :thumbup:

Thanks guys!! :thumbup: I'll get her detailed first.

This isn't really about the paint matching, but where are you taking your car for a detail? I want to get it clean before I put it away for the year I'm away.

I'd suggest Andrew Big A. He did my car for me after I bought it and you know how nice my BB is... :D

I second that, He just detailed my BB last week...

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That BB looks amazing god bless you for dealing with a blak car lol I had a black motorcycle I sold because I hated the swirls on the tank lol

Trust me i didnt want BB, i wanted GPW but thats like finding a needle in a haystack lol It had tons of swirls when i purchased it (not too visible but enough to bother the hell out of me)

:thumbup: I know my 11 year old paint will never look as good as yours, but as it will be in a garage for the year, I might as well have it look good while it's there!

:thumbup: I know my 11 year old paint will never look as good as yours, but as it will be in a garage for the year, I might as well have it look good while it's there!
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Yes, it's just as good to have it protected in storage as you never know what kind of dust/particulate matter will be sitting on the finish for an extended period. You'll be amazed at what Andrew can do. He'll have it looking so good you'll want to ship it across the pond while you're there. :thumbup:

No do not detail it! All the products used to to make a car shine causes contamination to automotive paints. The painter will take all the necessary steps to obtain the correct color. We hate it when someone does a full detail and wax b/c we have to spend extra time making sure there is no wax in the clears coats pores. It really will cause more problems then it's worth. Im a full time painter and work for all major insurance companies. Im sure if you call the shop who will be working on it will tell you the same thing.

Thomas

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I'm assuming that it would be ok to wash, clay, compound, and polish if I'm using paint shop safe stuff like Meguiar's M34/M105/M205 and then skip the wax/sealant.

I still wouldn't use compound. Even tho it doesn't contain silicone it will still would give me issues. Id just clay it and finish up when you get it back. My 2 cents..

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Just for you all this is what I do every work day of the week. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnElPY1bdi0

Believe it our not black is pretty easy to work with on these cars when correcting the paint as opposed to a subaru or VW in black lol.

Drshottest you made that car look amazing!

OP - make sure you request the do NOT detail it after. Sometimes body shops will run a buffer on the car after they are all done and actually create swirls.

I agree with sata not to use silicone based polishes or compounds but having a well sealed surface for the unaffected panels will def help paint matching, plus it will be easier to deal with over spray. It really doesn't matter how good the painter is, it's all about the prep and getting over spray off is prob the biggest pain in the ass during finishing. The painter can lay a perfect paint job but if the prep was bad then you're looking at additional work when all is said and done. There are plenty of silicone free, body shop safe detail products, you just have to ask the detailer if they use them or find them yourself.

clyde, if you're going to tri-boro, give them a call and ask brian.