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A 2 02-20-2018 05:34 PM

July 16 & 17 - S2000s at Watkins Glen with SCDA
 
This will be year SIX of our return to Watkins Glen with SCDA. I'm hoping we can get a good turn out and have a great time in the company of each other.

As always, SCDA has offered us a discount for their two day Watkins Glen event on July 16th & July 17th. A code has been created and is active to use towards the event. You can click on the spoiler tag to see the code.
Spoiler
 
One Day (Monday or Tuesday) Rate: $389.00 (Discounted Rate: $350.1 with a 10% discount)
Two Day Event Rate: $719.00 (Discounted Rate: $669 with a $50 discount)

REGISTRATION LINK: https://www.scdareg.com/events/scda-...ciation-666390

Once you sign up, please post here and let everybody know. That way we can make plans on where to stay, where to hang out and where to take the plus ones out to dinner on Monday night. I'm hoping that in addition to Shiv and Jeff we will have a larger turnout. I know Harry is buying a square set of wheels. I think it's time he gets on track with us too :)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...bf8b690705.jpg

Here is Shiv demonstrating a few laps around Watkins Glen:

Here is a link to the event from 2017: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/new-york...-scda-1169952/

shiv 02-21-2018 09:25 AM

Woohoo the premier S2K track event of the year! I am of course IN! Will be signing up very shortly. Can't wait for another killer year at the Glen. For anyone that's unsure if they want to go to the Glen, or have never been on track, let me offer these words of wisdom and encouragement: DO IT!!!!

This year I am set on having the car fully set up before I arrive so I don't lose nearly a full day of the car parked. For this year I am looking to put on larger brake rotors front and rear, electrically cooled brakes, and a little something under the hood that spins much much faster than the F20C :washwax: should afford a lot more speed.

There are a lot of track days each year, but if you own a s2k (you probably do since you're reading this), this is the one to be at. Each year is a total blast. Great friends, great memories, with the never ending talk of the largest engine that could be stuffed into the s2k. And a huge thank you to Aashish for continuing to organize this event and keeping it going! And a second thank you for the video shout out! :tipwink:

A 2 02-21-2018 10:41 AM

Thanks for the vote of confidence Shiv :thumbup:

A 2 02-21-2018 02:02 PM

Updated the original post to include the SCDA registration link

s200059 02-22-2018 06:22 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...16e054251c.jpg

A 2 02-23-2018 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by s200059 (Post 24423853)

isn’t that when you first met Jeff and Mark?

pgss2k 02-23-2018 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24423933)

isn’t that when you first met Jeff and Mark?

#59 is just a baby in that pic

s200059 02-24-2018 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by pgss2k (Post 24424001)
#59 is just a baby in that pic

Hadn't even reach puberty.....damn near a virgin, although I did trailer the car to the track so I am thinking its 2011.

Jeff - Mark, was this 2011 or 2012.

At this event we ended up being the only three s2000 for the event........and no one invited me to the Harbor Hotel for dinner.

A 2 02-25-2018 08:16 AM

Ross Bentley’s podcast with Elivan

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...403358479&mt=2

those that don’t have iTunes can listen here:
http://speedsecrets.libsyn.com/062-e...crets-to-speed

TW00Si 03-08-2018 11:21 AM

Thanks for hook up Aashish. I just registered for the two day event. Looking forward to hanging out with you guys (Shiv and Jeff) again.

A 2 03-08-2018 11:34 AM

Great news Rico. Looking forward to seeing you :thumbup:

blueosprey90 03-08-2018 01:29 PM

Is Rico bringing Liz?

TW00Si 03-08-2018 02:52 PM

Liz is occupied with the #metoo movement.

A 2 03-08-2018 03:33 PM

^ :rofl:

blueosprey90 03-08-2018 05:42 PM

Heap big smoke, but no fire! I should be OK.

Of course, if the lass has become the activist type, perhaps I can recruit her into the black-cars-matter movement.

blueosprey90 03-09-2018 03:31 AM

Signed up!

A 2 03-09-2018 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by blueosprey90 (Post 24430223)
Signed up!

excellent :thumbup:

HarryWho 03-09-2018 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24422787)
This will be year SIX of our return to Watkins Glen with SCDA. I'm hoping we can get a good turn out and have a great time in the company of each other.

As always, SCDA has offered us a discount for their two day Watkins Glen event on July 16th & July 17th. A code has been created and is active to use towards the event. You can click on the spoiler tag to see the code.
Spoiler
 
One Day (Monday or Tuesday) Rate: $389.00 (Discounted Rate: $350.1 with a 10% discount)
Two Day Event Rate: $719.00 (Discounted Rate: $669 with a $50 discount)

REGISTRATION LINK: https://www.scdareg.com/events/scda-...ciation-666390

Once you sign up, please post here and let everybody know. That way we can make plans on where to stay, where to hang out and where to take the plus ones out to dinner on Monday night. I'm hoping that in addition to Shiv and Jeff we will have a larger turnout. I know Harry is buying a square set of wheels. I think it's time he gets on track with us too :)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...bf8b690705.jpg

Here is Shiv demonstrating a few laps around Watkins Glen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN7InqYjW-k

Here is a link to the event from 2017: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/new-york...-scda-1169952/


I know Harry is buying a square set of wheels. I think it's time he gets on track with us too :)
Square wheels? I have enough trouble driving with round ones!
HA!rry

TW00Si 03-10-2018 08:05 AM

Liz will be there. Where are we dining this time?

A 2 03-10-2018 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by TW00Si (Post 24430688)
Liz will be there. Where are we dining this time?

In years past, we've always had the group dinner at the Harbor Hotel on Monday night. But, as Liz and you were only going to be there for one day, we decided to do the group dinner on Sunday night.

This year as you've signed up for both days, we can do the Harbor Hotel traditional dinner on Monday night and if you guys are up for it, we can go some place around town on Sunday evening.

Last year, Jeff, Shiv and I went to the Grist Iron Brewing Company. The place was really nice with outdoor seating overlooking the lake. Perhaps we can meet for dinner there on Sunday if everyone gets into town on time:
Grist Iron Brewing Company

A 2 04-07-2018 08:37 AM

Shared these pics on Metro to see if I could get some interest from there. Also sharing here. Please sign up if you've always wanted to do this. Remember, the more people that can make it, the greater the incentive to keep planning such events. :)

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...9f4bb543c8.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...a77f589353.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...bc54516a2c.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...2433ddb8d7.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...4fbc9e0d0e.jpg

saving4one 04-15-2018 09:27 AM

Can you pass tech for this event with just the factory hoops and OEM hard top?

A 2 04-15-2018 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by saving4one (Post 24446736)
Can you pass tech for this event with just the factory hoops and OEM hard top?

that has never been an issue in the past.

Blueosprey90 and NoDelta have fun with factory protection and the cloth top. You’ll be fine.

In fact I’ve run with SCDA in that very same configuration you describe before I got a roll bar. It’ll be great to finally meet you in person and talk hillclimbs if you can make it :thumbup:


saving4one 04-15-2018 04:55 PM

I'm looking forward to meeting you and several others now that I'm back home on the East coast. Unfortunately I can only afford to do the NYST event in May. I'm definitely planning to make Watkins Glen my first priority next year. Won't you be at NYST, thought I saw your name on the list?

I guess you're not on the list. Drive for Levi? I'll be there.

A 2 04-15-2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by saving4one (Post 24446874)
I'm looking forward to meeting you and several others now that I'm back home on the East coast. Unfortunately I can only afford to do the NYST event in May. I'm definitely planning to make Watkins Glen my first priority next year. Won't you be at NYST, thought I saw your name on the list?

I guess you're not on the list. Drive for Levi? I'll be there.

Have fun at the NYST event. Jeff (blueosprey90) will be there. Watkins Glen is a lot of fun and is something you must consider whether with SCDA or someone else. It will take your experience at NYST and turn it up to 11 so be sure to get to it whenever you can. We can catch up at the Drive for Levi for sure.

I think this year will be the last SCDA event that I try organizing something for the S2000 group. The message was pretty much on the wall last year, but it looked like people wanted to go this year. So I thought we could keep doing it. But there is no interest. Life gets in the way and I understand people have competing priorities.

NoDelta 04-20-2018 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24446887)
I think this year will be the last SCDA event that I try organizing something for the S2000 group. The message was pretty much on the wall last year, but it looked like people wanted to go this year. So I thought we could keep doing it. But there is no interest. Life gets in the way and I understand people have competing priorities.

I`m still hoping to sign up this year, as is Chevy S2000 John and his son Matt (now in a Miata)
I`ve just got this pesky speeding court date to resolve before I can fully commit :(

Here's NH Mark and I coming up the esses:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...6178ac3fcf.jpg

A 2 04-20-2018 04:17 AM

You were ticketed for speeding Mikey?

You’re more likely a candidate for public nuisance with those obnoxious brake pads

NoDelta 04-20-2018 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24448885)
You were ticketed for speeding Mikey?
You’re more likely a candidate for public nuisance with those obnoxious brake pads

Yup!
It was the first beautiful night of the season. I decided to fire up the S and see if this was the year that the mice got the wires. I didn't even need to jump her, she just started right up.
I let her idle for a while and get up to temp before deciding to pull her out into the driveway and clean the garage a little.
That didn't last long before I decided to go for a quick drive.
That didn't last long before I decided to drop the roof.
That didn't last long before I decided to give her some gas.
That didn't last long before they got me. I was less than 1/2 mile from where I started...

The official charge was 70 in a 45. They didn't give me a ticket, just a court date.
I`m off to meet my friendly local prosecutor this Monday. Wish me luck!
(I still need to fix the brakes too!)

A 2 04-20-2018 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by NoDelta (Post 24448912)
Yup!
It was the first beautiful night of the season. I decided to fire up the S and see if this was the year that the mice got the wires. I didn't even need to jump her, she just started right up.
I let her idle for a while and get up to temp before deciding to pull her out into the driveway and clean the garage a little.
That didn't last long before I decided to go for a quick drive.
That didn't last long before I decided to drop the roof.
That didn't last long before I decided to give her some gas.
That didn't last long before they got me. I was less than 1/2 mile from where I started...

The official charge was 70 in a 45. They didn't give me a ticket, just a court date.
I`m off to meet my friendly local prosecutor this Monday. Wish me luck!
(I still need to fix the brakes too!)

oh boy! Good luck. Perhaps you can get Mr. Osprey aka El Jefe to represent you pro bono. He is licensed in Connecticut. But be warned, he may just argue with the judge and make a bad situation worse. I’m sure they’ll make a deal and you’ll come out ok. Stay positive.

NoDelta 04-23-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24448930)
oh boy! Good luck. Perhaps you can get Mr. Osprey aka El Jefe to represent you pro bono. He is licensed in Connecticut. But be warned, he may just argue with the judge and make a bad situation worse. I’m sure they’ll make a deal and you’ll come out ok. Stay positive.

Got this all sorted out this morning - fortunately it didn't hurt too much. I make a charitable contribution and they clear my record so insurance doesnt find out!
Couldn't have hoped for anything more.
I haven't sent in my check yet, but that gets me one step closer to WGI.

A 2 04-23-2018 08:39 AM

Glad it went well :thumbup:

looking forward to you signing up. Maybe we will have a sizable group this year after all.

A 2 05-19-2018 11:34 AM

Mike is signed up.

and in other news, I signed up too :hidebc:

:p

A 2 06-14-2018 05:24 AM

Reserved a room at the Budget Inn.


A 2 06-20-2018 06:13 AM

So here’s a list of who is going:
- Two00si and plus one (staying at Airbnb)
- NoDelta (Budget Inn)
- Blueosprey90 (Budget Inn)
- Corvette John (Budget Inn)
- Matt G in a Miata (Budget Inn). Matt is tentative at this time as he is waitlisted
- A 2 (Budget Inn)

kschoenefeld 06-24-2018 05:52 PM

Not to hijack the thread, but is there a planned group outing to the Watkins Glen historic races in September, 2018? I am in St. Louis, MO, but love the historic weekend, and would like to attend this year.

A 2 06-25-2018 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by kschoenefeld (Post 24479368)
Not to hijack the thread, but is there a planned group outing to the Watkins Glen historic races in September, 2018? I am in St. Louis, MO, but love the historic weekend, and would like to attend this year.

If you’re making the drive from St. Louis, I’d recommend signing up for the Roadster tour on the friday before the races.

http://grandprixfestival.com/roadster.html

a group of us used to go until the interest waned. You can purchase race tickets as part of registering for the Roadster tour. You’ll enjoy it for sure.

A 2 06-27-2018 04:48 AM

18 days away.

Pretty sure the people in the post above are all that are coming.

Any visitors that want to stop by? Post here and let me know so I can tell SCDA about it. Bring a helmet if you want to go out on a ride on track.

HarryWho 06-27-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24480375)
18 days away.

Pretty sure the people in the post above are all that are coming.

Any visitors that want to stop by? Post here and let me know so I can tell SCDA about it. Bring a helmet if you want to go out on a ride on track.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...ajoIrCpuMF7VXg
I plan on stopping by as in the past. Will Jack's helmet pass?
HA!rry

A 2 06-27-2018 09:32 AM

As long as it’s rated M and is DOT compliant you should be fine Harry.

A 2 07-10-2018 02:26 AM

Appears Harry is the only visitor as of now. I’ll be stopping by Bugsy’s before heading to Watkins so I’ll know if he has any plans of showing up.

blueosprey90 07-10-2018 04:30 AM

Link to the Circuit Studies webinar on the Glen.



pgss2k 07-14-2018 02:55 AM

Change your fluids, check your brakes,read your track notes....
Have fun everyone!

A 2 07-14-2018 05:02 AM

Thanks Paul. :thumbup:

s200059 07-14-2018 07:45 AM

Anyone from Albany area doing just one day and would be coming home Monday night.

If I can get a ride out I will go, just can't drive that far right now.

A 2 07-14-2018 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by s200059 (Post 24487558)
Anyone from Albany area doing just one day and would be coming home Monday night.

If I can get a ride out I will go, just can't drive that far right now.

Everyone that signed up, signed up for both days.

If you can do both days, you’re welcome to ride out with me.

HarryWho 07-15-2018 06:27 AM

Sorry A2 but I won't be able to make it to Watkins Monday or Tuesday. Daughter and Son in law are going out of town and so I will be kid sitting and making airport trips. I need to be nice to them so I have someone to visit me at the old folks home in the future.
I will miss hanging out with you guys. Have a great track experience.
Harry

s200059 07-15-2018 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24487572)


Everyone that signed up, signed up for both days.

If you can do both days, you’re welcome to ride out with me.

Well I had forgotten one thing about today - its my anniversary today and running off to Watkins mid-day wasn't in the plans.
Lisa and I have spent our Anniversary at many different tracks, Watkins, Calabogie, Mt Tremblant, Monticello to name a few.
So today I will not be at any race tracks, but I will be thinking of the s2ki gang that will be at Watkins with SCDA.

A 2 07-16-2018 01:29 AM

Thanks Greg. The gang is here sans several of the regulars.

Missing Shiv as well as you. Hope you both enjoyed your anniversary. Shiv starts at his new job today so good luck to him.

Mike, Jeff, Rico and I will have fun and work to keep the shiny side up.

NH_s2k_Guy 07-16-2018 04:56 AM

Have fun everyone, I'm jealous! Post lots of pictures and updates!

I have to live vicariously through all of you!

A 2 07-16-2018 06:28 AM

Thanks Mark.

Bugsy and Donna hosted Mike and I yesterday. Too bad the other couldn’t come as we had a rip roaring time laughing hard.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...475cd1af3.jpeg

A 2 07-16-2018 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by HarryWho (Post 24487763)
Sorry A2 but I won't be able to make it to Watkins Monday or Tuesday. Daughter and Son in law are going out of town and so I will be kid sitting and making airport trips. I need to be nice to them so I have someone to visit me at the old folks home in the future.
I will miss hanging out with you guys. Have a great track experience.
Harry

We’ll miss seeing you Harry. Family comes first. There is always next year.

blueosprey90 07-18-2018 07:06 AM

Dropped off the S in Saratoga and was surprised to see Disgruntled Publicus up there. He had made a space for himself in the garage and promised to look after the car. Of course, just as I parked, he knocked over two out of the three bicycles.

Back home by about 1:45 a.m. this morning. Ground fog and tired eyes between Satatoga and home. Went to bed and dreamed of my last two runs the rest of the night!

s200059 07-18-2018 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by blueosprey90 (Post 24489106)
Dropped off the S in Saratoga and was surprised to see Disgruntled Publicus up there. He had made a space for himself in the garage and promised to look after the car. Of course, just as I parked, he knocked over two out of the three bicycles.

Back home by about 1:45 a.m. this morning. Ground fog and tired eyes between Satatoga and home. Went to bed and dreamed of my last two runs the rest of the night!

Glad you fellas had a good, safe trip. You sure did wear out Mr A2, he told me about the rat race he had with 3 different students and a couple guys with S2000's.

I can't wait to see the pictures of those "collectible" S2000 shirts that Aashish had made for your special event. There won't ever be any more of those shirts in existence.

A 2 07-18-2018 11:31 AM


A 2 07-18-2018 11:33 AM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...89aaf85ac.jpeg

El Jefe very happy at the end of the day. All the S2000s got into the 2:20s at this event.

A 2 07-18-2018 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by blueosprey90 (Post 24489106)
Dropped off the S in Saratoga and was surprised to see Disgruntled Publicus up there. He had made a space for himself in the garage and promised to look after the car. Of course, just as I parked, he knocked over two out of the three bicycles.

Back home by about 1:45 a.m. this morning. Ground fog and tired eyes between Satatoga and home. Went to bed and dreamed of my last two runs the rest of the night!

you appear to have had the longest day out of all. Glad you made it home safely

A 2 07-18-2018 06:19 PM

ah! Watkins Glen...always looks forward to those two days in July where the weather can do whatever it wants and track conditions are constantly changing, but the company of friends and fellow track rats keeps me going. I signed up to instruct at the event. A week prior to the event, I get an email from Elivan who forwards a request from the novice student I had at Club Motorsports. I said I definitely could. Ted my student is a young film maker who loves in the City and does not own a car. His uncle and aunt are SCDA regulars and tend to gather the whole family at the track driving all the cars they own. So this year they brought their GTR, a C7 Vette, an Audi RS4 and a Ford Focus RS. My student would be sharing the GTR with his uncle. The aunt would be driving the C7 Vette. His father would be driving the Audi RS4 and his brother the Focus RS.

Bugsy invited the group to stop over at his house on the way to Watkins. Alas, Mike and I were the only ones that could go. Also I couldn't do maintenance on the car and asked Jeff if he could help me and help me he did. Bugsy is the guy that taught me what I know about doing some maintenance on the car by myself. I'll always be grateful to him for that. We arrived at Bugsys home at 3 PM and Donna fed us a wonderful meal. Jeff had us laughing hard as did Hogan and together (as in mostly him) we got the car done in about 45 mins. We left there around 6:50 and arrived to the Budget Inn by 7:40 PM.

After checking in, I walked over to Ben & Jerrys to meet Rico and Liz while Mike decided he needed a rest from all the driving. I returned to the motel after meeting the guys to see Corvette John and Mike sitting out on the porch drinking beer. I sat down with them and had a beer and Mr. Osprey arrived as usual at a fashionably late time. We stayed up talking for a long time and went to sleep around midnight.

In the AM, we got to the track around 7 AM. This event too was sold out like the past years and we had no option but to find parking in the spaces furthest from the media center. Head to the instructors meeting and then walk back and unpack the car while the others headed to the drivers meeting. As I got ready to go out for my first run, Elivan stopped me and asked if I could take out an Advanced student. Turns out this guy was from Canada and he was there in this gorgeous red Alfa 4C coupe. He was an instructor with BMW CCC for a number of years but had never been to any of the stateside tracks. He rattled of all the Canadian tracks he had experience at. I took him out and narrated the lap best I could as I didn't have my communicator with me but we seemed to be able to hear each other. At the end of the session he thanked me and he said he liked my driving and said he'd have no hesitation with signing me off. I told him that meant a lot given that I'd started instructing only last year.

During the second session, one of the SCDA guys asked me if I could take a lady out with me as i was in pit lane about to go out. I asked her to get in and took off with a brief greeting as I did not want to lose any time. On about the second lap, I looked over and she seemed ok but I asked her if she was OK and she said she was doing great. I reminded myself to keep checking in with her and on every subsequent occasion when I asked how she was doing, she responded with a big thumbs up and a sing song doing great. Soon we started waving to her husband who was in pit lane and taking pics and then I pointed out another photographer at the bus stop to whom she could wave. On the cool down lap we get talking and she said she was here all the way from Alabama with her husband and young son. Her husband was driving his Vette. She herself had attended the Porsche 3-day racing school at Barber but was here to support her husband. And as the conversation progressed, it turns out she grew up in Memphis and studied there - the city where I went to grad school. We talked for a brief bit about Memphis and then I dropped her of and headed back to my student.

During the third session, I took Corvette John out with me. I told him we'd do 5-6 laps and then get back in so he could try to figure out why his car was going into limp mode. Well 5-6 laps in, the session was black flagged. I decided to cut this session short so I wouldn't have to go into town to get gas and so I'd have enough fuel to take my student out in the 4th session. But my calculation was wrong. About 20 minutes into the final session, the low fuel light came on and I pitted rather than stopping on track and causing a black flag.

I rode out with Mike on Day 1 in the S2000 and I really enjoyed riding with him although I was out only for 12 minutes as I had to get back and go out with my novice student. Mike was driving beautifully and pretty much on the limit of the car i thought. The other thing I was very impressed with was how calm and assured his demeanor was as he was driving. I rode out with Rico on Day 2 again for part of the session and he drove so well that I had this irresistible urge to pee. I requested he drop me off and made it to the mens just in time. Had he been lapping slower, Liz would probably have had to take the train back home. Rico was very consistent and fast too. Told him to make a few adjustments and I think that may have helped him. All three S2000s including El Jefe did very well and were lapping in the 2:20s which is a very good time in my opinion. Had me wishing I was running with them.

All day on the first, my student was in the Nissan GTR. He was driving the Audi RS4 last year at Tamworth and this was his first time driving the GTR. I told him to leave the car in automatic and just focus on the line as he said he didn't have experience with the paddles. I told him we could try the paddles on the second day. We gradually worked on picking up the pace and once up to speed, he had no issues with nailing the gas pedal and moving me from one corner to the next. If I had to guess, he probably was lapping the track in as much time as I was lapping in the BRZ :)

During the last session of the day, we started to smell gas. Initially we felt it may have been another car but the smell was rather strong, also the transmission seemed to be lurching while upshifting in a manner that made us move in the car. To err on the side of caution we pulled in and the crew in pit lane also confirmed they could smell gas but saw no leaks. We decided to park it and went back to the paddock. When he told his uncle about it, his uncle said the owners manual says the car will smell of unburnt fuel when a driver is leaning hard on the car. This car was on Hoosiers and was being driven for 8 sessions in the day, so it was being leaned on, but then his uncle thought we should park it too so he can try to figure out the clunking.

On the second day, Ted walked over to me and said the GTRs pads were worn out and they had decided to park it so they could drive it home. He said he was going to share the Audi RS4 but that too would be unavailable in the AM as both uncle and Dad would drive it and that one of them would give up their afternoon sessions so Ted could drive. He also said that his aunts C7 was available but that it was on slicks. It had rained heavily the night before and during my first session, an instructor put his E46 into the tire wall between 9 & 10 on the first green lap. The session was black flagged and within the remaining time we only got one out lap and one in lap. The track was damp on line and the grooves in the curbs had water and the painted surfaces were inviting the errant tire. I told Ted that it probably wasn't a good idea to go out on slicks. As we were talking his aunt comes up and says that we could take the car if we wanted but that the tread on the Pilot Sport Cup 2's was low. That was a street tire. I immediately walked over and looked at the tread. It had the center ridge and the grooves on the side and was bald everywhere. To me it seemed safe to drive as there was no standing water and as long as one avoided clipping the apex and touching the painted surfaces. So I made a decision to go out so Ted could get all his runs in. I told him to leave it in 4th, keep about two feet away from the apexes and generally go very smooth and easy. That session went well and the surface had dried out on the line thanks to the advanced group. We gradually built up speed and Ted's confidence grew. We went out and did the second session again in the Vette. I got to see sibling rivalry play out as both he and his brother engaged in a dog fight passing back and forth while they passed the traffic.

After lunch, Ted drives over in the Audi RS4. He said he now had use of this car as the Corvette was now being shared by two other members of that group. So we go out in the Audi. Ted has never heel-toed and I told him to only drive the car in 3rd and 4th. The Audi needed third gear for some corners as this is the older version with a proper NA V8. Ted tended to brake turn in and grab third after tracking out. By this time the car bogged a bit and I did not want him to deal with going down to second. I asked if he knew how to rev-match and he said he didn't. So I asked him to pit in so I could show him by doing a lap. I went out with him and demonstrated rev match down shifting at as many corners as I could for a lap. I asked if that was good as we went past Turn 9 and he asked me to do another lap. It was definitely my pleasure - the Audi was so awesome and all that power is so addicting. Ted tried downshifting with the rev match after this and was doing ok but not as smoothly and quickly as I wanted him to. We were going slower so I wasn't worried about the car getting unsettled - also the nannies were there to save us if something untoward happened. After the session I took him to one of the parking lots and made him practice rev-match downshifting. He got better for the shorter final session, but still needed to work on coming off of the clutch smoothly. The one nice thing I liked about my student was how well he braked for a novice. His brake release was also very smooth.

As far as my sessions for the day - I decided I'd ditch the last session so I could come home and play with Antara before she went to bed (alas, she was asleep by the time I got home). Because the track was damp from the overnight rain, I figured that would help me a bit in terms of keeping up with the other cars. During the first session, the entire track was damp but starting to dry. Went out and circulated under yellow with Mike riding along and on the first green flag lap, I think I passed a couple of cars. Coming out of Turn 7 we saw the black flag and then saw a waving yellow at turn 9. The BMW was stranded between 9 and 10 on the line with its nose in the wall. Got back to pit lane and waited out the session. Mike was asked to leave the car as they only wanted instructors alone in cars to do a recon once the black flag was cleared. We got to go out and and do an out lap and as I started my second lap the checkered flew at the sole of the boot. Session was done. The second session, I took Rico out with me to hopefully help him but I think I may have been an ass and not really helped any. Third and my final session of the day, I took Mike out again and we did a full session. Then it was time to do one more session with my student and Jeff and I hit the road at 5:30ish and I got home at 9. Ate a quick dinner, sneaked a quiet peek at Antara and then hit the sack.

I'll upload the videos eventually and share them. But I wanted to thank everyone that was directly or indirectly involved with this event for their help and participation. We have a great community here. We've been a bit quiet of late but as a group are still very helpful and hospitable. So thanks to Bugsy who helped me get my car prepped and to Donna for her hospitality. Hogan for coming along to Bugsys and adding to the merriment. Greg for his advice, mentoring and constant monitoring. Lisa for the shirts. Paul for constantly checking in to make sure things went well. And the guys that came this year and in years prior in spite of costs going up with the repave (especially Mr. Osprey the one constant and my room mate). It is each and everyone of you that helped to make this event happen and made it special. We've had a good run since 2013 when we started doing this. This was always about a group of people getting together and bonding over their love of the car and the hobby and I think we achieved that each and every year regardless of the count of cars. I am not sure if I will continue to try and organize this going forward - the cost is prohibitive and cheaper options abound like the S2K takeover at NYST and Track Night in America and I can very well understand how people would hesitate to pay as much as Watkins Glen demands. Some clubs with deep pockets are able to offer very cheap track time too at Watkins Glen, unfortunately I do not have an in with any of those marque-specific clubs to where I can arrange for a deal. I will most likely continue to go to this event every year and I hope to have fellow owners come as well discount or not.

I am afraid there is no TL;DR version for this post. So if you've read so far and haven't torn your hair apart for wasting 5 minutes, I :tiphat: to you

blueosprey90 07-19-2018 04:12 AM

Life changes and our ranks are thin. I try to recruit some younger talent without success. But I still had a great time at the Glen. Thanks Aashish for setting up and being the anchor.

Got up early and started loading the car for Club Motorsports. But also need to sew up my driver's suit! Also have to go to work!

Foulone 07-19-2018 05:38 PM

good guys
 
Hi Y'all (I lived in Ga for a year so I guess I'm allowed to say that). Just want to say that I had a great time seeing Aashish and meeting Mike at Jeffs on sunday. I wish I had my shit together enough to participate in one these track events, but I don't, so it's just as well that I don't. Always a pleasure to meet any of you guys and wish you all the best. Maybe catch up on one of the drives.. Hogan the foulone

NoDelta 07-22-2018 05:54 PM

Looking back over the past 8 years of owning this car, these events stand out as a highlight. The track is amazing and the company can't be beat.

The trip this year started with a near miss for me - I checked my oil early in the morning, was about a quart short so I topped it off, then hit the road. Stop number 1 was to grab A2 and then onto Bugsy's. When we got there, he and Foulone were in the driveway drinking beer (of course) when Foulone noticed some white smoke. I popped the hood and sure enough - there was oil everywhere and my oil cap sitting top dead center on the valve cover. ****. When I filled it in the morning my little boy was running around the garage and I think that I just forgot to put it back on. Once it cooled down I found I was down a half quart - not enough to do any damage, just enough to make a mess. When we got to the Budget Inn, Aashish went out for ice cream and I pulled down the oil soaked insulation/sound deadening and just tossed it. The idea of an oil soaked rag just sitting over my engine was pretty horrifying - plus, my car is at least a pound lighter than it was previously.

Day 1 felt like a normal summer day at the Glen - hot as hell, sunny, and no shade in sight. It took a little time to find the rhythm of the track, but after the first session it felt like visiting an old friend. I think that the only changes I've made to the car since my previous visit were better brake pads, a seatbelt lock, and 2 years more experience for the driver. This was good for 3sec off my previous best time. Night 1 brought dinner at the Harbor Hotel, massive thunderstorms, lightning, and torrential rain. Fortunately I was able to find a good parking spot :)

Day 2 was much cooler than the previous. We started with a wet track, but fortunately, there was no more rain. During the second session I had an M2 in front of me and Rico behind me, and that combination was enough motivation to cut an additional 3 seconds off the previous day's time! Between the second and third sessions, Corvette John commented that he had lots of little cracks in his rotors from all the heat. Rico checked his rotors and noticed the same. I checked mine and just had One. Big. Crack.
It's the first time I've ever cracked a rotor! I`m kind of proud, but also, didn't have a spare so that was the end of my event. lesson learned. 1) Carry spare rotors. 2) Don't turn rotors that you're going to track.

Day 3 was spent replacing rotors in the Budget Inn parking lot (It's really convenient having advanced auto across the street) and driving home.

Next on my list is some routine maintenance for me - I`ve got a blown diff bushing (going to install some collars when I replace the bad bushing), some old diff fluid that needs to be replaced (its been 2-3 years), some new SS brake lines (yup, I dropped a caliper when replacing the rotors. No leaks, but I just don't trust it any more), replacing a clutch master cylinder (it's got a slow leak), and replacing a clutch slave cylinder (with the CDV delete) just because I need to break into the system and bleed the lines anyway

Bugsy, Foulone, Donna - thanks again for the tour of the shop, beer, and hospitality
Bugsy, JsEnclosures - thanks for the car parts
A2 - thanks again for putting this all together.
BlueOsp - thanks for the laughs!
Rico, Freddy, Anthony (if you're here) - it was great meeting you guys and I hope we can do it again sometime (Palmer!)

A 2 07-23-2018 06:24 AM

Phew! I was relieved that you didn’t lose the 710 cap. Glad you could make it.

One question, was it your first time out there after the repave? That also could be a contributing factor to the lower lap times in addition to the other factors.

A 2 07-24-2018 01:30 AM

I only got videos from three sessions on the first day

Here is the first session:

Second Session:

A 2 07-24-2018 01:31 AM

and this is a shorter session with Corvette John as passenger:


TW00Si 07-24-2018 02:44 PM

Holy shit, Aashish, you’re a novelist. I don’t post much but when I do, I tend to keep it short.

I do want to thank Aashish for organizing. This year was better than last year because I got to do the 2 days instead of 1. I also got to meet Mike and John. I’m very relieved that this bunch (Aashish, Jeff, Mike and John) is down to earth and good people to hang out with. With that, I look forward to future track days with you all.

I want to share videos of my run. It’s the first time for me posting videos of my driving. I’d appreciate your constructive feedback. Thanks!







A 2 07-24-2018 03:35 PM

Rico - you were consistent in what you did. And as Greg used to tell me, its easy to make tweaks when someone is driving consistently. I think you improved massively as the event progressed. A 2:24 lap is very quick and you seemed to get the best out of your car as your familiarity with the track kept increasing.

I'm not a novelist. I just have a problem with brevity. It is our friend Mr. Osprey that is the budding novelist. And as I said to you, use all of the track and make sure you're on the gas at the apex. You were most certainly doing that in the videos you shared with me so job well done on what was only your third day on track at Watkins Glen.

shiv 08-06-2018 04:54 PM

Can't believe I'm this late to the game on posting! Time is seriously flying down here. It was real smack in the face being at work on day 1 rather than ripping around the Glen with you lads. As always, your track reports made me feel like I was there Aashish. Plus that video you sent me definitely lifted my spirits. As always glad to see that everyone got out nice and safe and had a great time. Also, it seems like the weather really held out this year which is awesome! Although this year was a bust for me, I will definitely be back next year!

blueosprey90 08-07-2018 05:37 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...1ad34fec8c.jpg

Rico tailgating the Mellow Yellow at the Glen 2018

A 2 08-07-2018 07:20 AM

That mello yellow was something else. The ground shook when they fired up that car. How hard was he driving?

blueosprey90 08-07-2018 02:09 PM

The Mellow Yellow was having trouble. I think he was over heating; and the car seems to be a work in progress. He was there at the Glen last year, also having trouble. Plus I'm not sure how experienced a driver he is. Even I passed him.

blueosprey90 08-08-2018 02:55 PM

My two days at the Glen started in the Adirondacks, first with the Solidarity Drive for Levi in unsettled weather, and then to make up, on Sunday afternoon with an absolutely glorious ride across the ‘dacks from Elizabethtown to Rome. Late enough for all the summer weekend traffic to be gone, early enough for me to have daylight, top down and traffic so light that I didn’t get behind a slow car the whole way. Perfect!

On the Thruway between Rome and Seneca Falls, then south on Route 114 along Seneca Lake to the Glen – downhill all the way! The only negative on the whole ride was the smell of the massive landfill on the northern outskirts of Seneca Lake.

Met most of the boys at the Budget Inn having a brew on the porch well after dark. Of course, Rico is keeping Liz at a safe distance in some other hostelry, so they are not there. JJ has sent a sandwich for me and Mike offers one of John’s beers. Perfect way to end the drive.

Of course, I bunked with Aashish. As always, we are like two school girls talking late into the night. It wouldn’t be so bad except that he sets the alarm for about 5:00 a.m. Gone is the 8 alarm fire response in New York City that has me on the ceiling. Instead, it is gentle chimes this year and I feel like I’m floating in a boat on the pond. Of course, I have to pull myself out of bed hours before it is absolutely necessary.

Good conditions for the track; and I have a good first run to warm up. Also feeling quite good about the second run when I clocked a 2:50 lap time. I thought this was a great time for me – that is until I checked my times from last year and saw that on day 2 that I had been running in the mid to high 2:30s with a best lap of 2:34. I had a long way to go to get there again this year.

But I improved and by the end of the day on Monday, I was clocking some 2:36 laps.

Rained at dinner time, but we had our usual social gathering at the Harbor House. Some je ne sais quoi was missing. I wasn’t making my usual “under my breath comments” about my table mates or thinking about how the bill would be split when it came time to pay. So I had fun without this extra pressure. I did my best to behave for fear of retribution from the #MeToo Movement. They have been out for me lately!

On Tuesday, I had a new plan. Since I seemed to be stuck running laps in the 2:38 to 2:36 range, I made a concerted effort to roll more speed through the corners, especially the two left handers, turn 7 and turn 10, as they seemed to be my slowest corners. I tried not to overbrake, and felt that if I could roll through these corners at just 1 or 2 mph faster, my lap times would improve.

In the first run I picked up a bit of time, and then in my second run. I really found my mojo. I ran seven laps under 2:35 and my best lap was run at 2:29.971. I was very happy and I must admit that I felt quite comfortable at the increased pace.

Alas, it was not to last. In my third and final run, I seemed to slow a bit. I only ran 4 laps in under 2:35 and the best I could do was a 2:30.864. Of course, that was about 20 seconds faster than my first run on Monday, so who’s complaining.

I needed to drive the car to Saratoga to drop it off for my daughter. I bagged the fourth run and waited for Aashish to finish his day. He was anxious to get home to see the baby. We had a nice scenic run along the road between Binghamton and Albany and split up west of Albany as I headed north on the Northway.

I dropped off the S around 9:30 and then headed home. Tired eyes and ground fog made slow going. I pulled off and took a micro nap for 20 minutes off of Route 22 south on Hillsdale. Then headed on home arriving around 2:30 a.m.

Had another great time and look forward to returning next year. Upstate New York in high summer is God's Country and I loved driving across.


A 2 08-08-2018 05:38 PM

Great post El Jefe. That Miata driver must have a broken left hand. :)

blueosprey90 08-08-2018 06:31 PM

He had passed me early on the session and had gotten way ahead. Once I woke up, I worked on clawing him back. Took quite a few laps and I guess I never pressed him hard enough for a point. It was one of those rental race cars, I believe. No problem.

A 2 08-09-2018 05:39 PM

Tagged you guys on FB too. PSA about the Harbor Hotel. We should be fine but just be watchful for symptoms

https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/...=facebook_WTEN

Officials say individuals who were guests at the hotel between July 16 and August 1, 2018 and were in proximity to the hotel's pool and spa may have been exposed to the bacteria.

The department is currently working with the hotel to reach guests who were on site during the potential exposure.

Legionella bacteria can cause a serious type of pneumonia called Legionnaires’ disease. The bacteria can also cause a less serious illness called Pontiac fever.

Officials say Legionnaires’ disease is very similar to other types of pneumonia, with symptoms that include cough, shortness of breath, fever, muscle aches, and headaches. Less common symptoms include diarrhea, nausea, and confusion. Symptoms usually begin two to ten days after being exposed to the bacteria, but it can take longer so people should watch for symptoms for about two weeks after exposure.

pgss2k 08-10-2018 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by A 2 (Post 24498335)
Tagged you guys on FB too. PSA about the Harbor Hotel. We should be fine but just be watchful for symptoms

https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/...=facebook_WTEN

Officials say individuals who were guests at the hotel between July 16 and August 1, 2018 and were in proximity to the hotel's pool and spa may have been exposed to the bacteria.

The department is currently working with the hotel to reach guests who were on site during the potential exposure.

Legionella bacteria can cause a serious type of pneumonia called Legionnaires’ disease. The bacteria can also cause a less serious illness called Pontiac fever.

Officials say Legionnaires’ disease is very similar to other types of pneumonia, with symptoms that include cough, shortness of breath, fever, muscle aches, and headaches. Less common symptoms include diarrhea, nausea, and confusion. Symptoms usually begin two to ten days after being exposed to the bacteria, but it can take longer so people should watch for symptoms for about two weeks after exposure.

Legionnaires is nothing to fool with.
I had it once and nearly died. Spent 7 days in a hospital bed and took months to come back up to speed.
If you feel at all like the flu go see a doc.
The good news is I think it would have presented by now.

blueosprey90 08-13-2018 10:55 AM


I had it once and nearly died. Spent 7 days in a hospital bed and took months to come back up to speed.

I can't say that I've ever been that sick. So glad that you pulled through.


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