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Old 07-29-2010, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Harpoon,Jul 29 2010, 11:31 AM
The S2000 has very good brakes from the factory. All you probably need is tougher pads. You can't compare the breaking requirements of those other cars to the S. Weights are different, under car airflow is different, etc. The ring is so open between corners that you should get adequate cooling between the corners. You might want to check in with the UK forum - they do a bunch of trips to the ring and post more than the other euro forums do.
For the street, sure. For the track, I wouldn't give them any accolades, but they get the job done most of the time.

Good pads and fluid make a world of difference and will cover the casual track day driver. Ducts are a great upgrade and will give you some extra longevity out of your pads and rotors and such.

Personally, I'd like to have some extra $$$ laying around to drop on some two-piece rotors. The solid, non vented rear rotors really suck for repeated track use due to heat transfer into the hubs making for some very unhappy wheel bearings.
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Originally Posted by c32b,Jul 29 2010, 05:12 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34561226@N05/3215124083/
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the quick and dirty initial setup. This has since been modified. will get the updated pics soon as my car is in the workshop til tomorrow.
Thanks for the pics, interested to see the final results.
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Originally Posted by GinoGT,Jul 29 2010, 07:05 PM
For the street, sure. For the track, I wouldn't give them any accolades, but they get the job done most of the time.

Good pads and fluid make a world of difference and will cover the casual track day driver. Ducts are a great upgrade and will give you some extra longevity out of your pads and rotors and such.

Personally, I'd like to have some extra $$$ laying around to drop on some two-piece rotors. The solid, non vented rear rotors really suck for repeated track use due to heat transfer into the hubs making for some very unhappy wheel bearings.
Are the rear bearing sealed oil or a normal grease bearing? If its grease its not to bad to re-pack them every few sessions.
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Originally Posted by 34witt,Jul 30 2010, 07:34 AM
Are the rear bearing sealed oil or a normal grease bearing? If its grease its not to bad to re-pack them every few sessions.
Not happening. When they go bad you need to get the old one pressed out and a new one pressed in. It's also not fun getting to them.
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To the OP - are you thinking you'll be able to do consecutive laps on the ring without having to come off the track? The standard routine is one lap and you have to come off before being let back on. I did some reading and the UK guys say they go without ducting, but drive the car in the off-track area for 3 minutes or so in order to cool down the brakes before getting back in line at the entrance. What do you see happening with your laps?
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During open track days they consider the Ring a "toll road". The long straight is where you pay to get on it. This makes it so no one dies on the straight. However when you finish your lap there is 2 lanes. One lane exits to the cool down/parking area and the other goes right to the toll again. So its not necessarily consecutive laps but close enough. It only takes about 30 seconds to go through the gate.

Also I know a couple shops that rent the track for an entire day. If they rent it for the entire day I can just pay them for track time.
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Originally Posted by GinoGT,Jul 30 2010, 04:58 AM
Not happening. When they go bad you need to get the old one pressed out and a new one pressed in. It's also not fun getting to them.
Well that takes care of that idea...
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I would just do Cobalt XR2/XR5s with Castrol SRF and not worry about braking anymore. Bring spare front rotors.
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SRF regardless
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At $70 a bottle for Castrol SRF, I'd stick to the ATE Superblue/Typ200 and put ducts on the car.


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