S2000 Control arm bushings
01-06-2012, 08:45 PM
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Sorry for going AWOL folks. I've been slammed at work and now that holidays are over, I have time and money to invest in my car again. I've talked to a company out in Cali, whom I can't remember the name of now, that is willing to build a kit for our cars with rubber OEM compliant. They mentioned that our cars aren't really old enough yet to need them, but with the new year coming in and my 2000 model turning 12, I think it's about time they get started. My bushings are definitely shot!
I offered to use my car as a test car if they give me a free kit after the R&D is done. This means I'll have to either pay for all the labor or do the install labor myself. Either way, even after labor, I should get out cheaper than the $600-$1000 kits out there by Powerflex, King, Hardrace, and Spoon.
Hopefully by mid-year I'll have some trial parts, and maybe by end of the year or next year, we may start seeing the complete kits sell. If I get this done, I'll be setting up a group buy. However, this is all optimistic yet. I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything from the company. I'll have to search my old emails for the phone number and ring them up again.
I offered to use my car as a test car if they give me a free kit after the R&D is done. This means I'll have to either pay for all the labor or do the install labor myself. Either way, even after labor, I should get out cheaper than the $600-$1000 kits out there by Powerflex, King, Hardrace, and Spoon.
Hopefully by mid-year I'll have some trial parts, and maybe by end of the year or next year, we may start seeing the complete kits sell. If I get this done, I'll be setting up a group buy. However, this is all optimistic yet. I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything from the company. I'll have to search my old emails for the phone number and ring them up again.
01-18-2012, 05:03 AM
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This is what I don't understand:
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewP...idcategory=386
$279 for integra full Hardrace bushing kit.
But the S2000 bushings from Hardrace add up to over $1600. The Spoon bushings are $880 from GoTuning. The Mugen bushings are $840.
I feel like these companies are just price gouging. I need OE replacement because my bushings are worn.
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewP...idcategory=386
$279 for integra full Hardrace bushing kit.
But the S2000 bushings from Hardrace add up to over $1600. The Spoon bushings are $880 from GoTuning. The Mugen bushings are $840.
I feel like these companies are just price gouging. I need OE replacement because my bushings are worn.
01-18-2012, 05:08 AM
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Spoon:
http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=318
Mugen:
http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=873
http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=876
Hardrace are too expensive and not worth it.
Powerflex (polyurethane):
http://store.powerflexusa.com/honda-...hings-p75.aspx
http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=318
Mugen:
http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=873
http://www.gotuning.com/product_info...roducts_id=876
Hardrace are too expensive and not worth it.
Powerflex (polyurethane):
http://store.powerflexusa.com/honda-...hings-p75.aspx
01-19-2012, 07:56 AM
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I've been in contact with Powerflex USA who already makes a polyurethane kit for our cars. I plan to order a set and conduct a DIY to for self installation including video/step-by-step images on how to install from home using hand tools. My plan is to negotiate a group buy/kit discount with them once I garner some interest.
01-22-2012, 02:08 PM
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Why do you think hard race are not worth it? Mugen bushings are similar in design to oem as they are a harder bushing material. I bought and installed several hard race bushings. I think what most people don't understand about them is that they are actually bearings! No binding, no preload and easier to install than oem style bushings. They aren't exactly cheap but I do expect them to last quite a while, even on the street as they are sealed by a rubber boot that should keep out water and dirt. Not ideal for a street driven car as they transmit a fair amount of road noise as well as feedback from the suspension.
01-23-2012, 08:06 PM
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Why do you think hard race are not worth it? Mugen bushings are similar in design to oem as they are a harder bushing material. I bought and installed several hard race bushings. I think what most people don't understand about them is that they are actually bearings! No binding, no preload and easier to install than oem style bushings. They aren't exactly cheap but I do expect them to last quite a while, even on the street as they are sealed by a rubber boot that should keep out water and dirt. Not ideal for a street driven car as they transmit a fair amount of road noise as well as feedback from the suspension.
Because a full set of Hard Race bushings is over $1,600!!!
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
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Guys, I've successfully negotiated a group buy to happen this week Jan 24-Jan??.
Please go to this thread: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/922...#entry21332174
Please go to this thread: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/922...#entry21332174
01-23-2012, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AVAS' timestamp='1327273693' post='21341709
Why do you think hard race are not worth it? Mugen bushings are similar in design to oem as they are a harder bushing material. I bought and installed several hard race bushings. I think what most people don't understand about them is that they are actually bearings! No binding, no preload and easier to install than oem style bushings. They aren't exactly cheap but I do expect them to last quite a while, even on the street as they are sealed by a rubber boot that should keep out water and dirt. Not ideal for a street driven car as they transmit a fair amount of road noise as well as feedback from the suspension.
Because a full set of Hard Race bushings is over $1,600!!!
01-24-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kflorida' timestamp='1327381564' post='21346109
[quote name='AVAS' timestamp='1327273693' post='21341709']
Why do you think hard race are not worth it? Mugen bushings are similar in design to oem as they are a harder bushing material. I bought and installed several hard race bushings. I think what most people don't understand about them is that they are actually bearings! No binding, no preload and easier to install than oem style bushings. They aren't exactly cheap but I do expect them to last quite a while, even on the street as they are sealed by a rubber boot that should keep out water and dirt. Not ideal for a street driven car as they transmit a fair amount of road noise as well as feedback from the suspension.
Why do you think hard race are not worth it? Mugen bushings are similar in design to oem as they are a harder bushing material. I bought and installed several hard race bushings. I think what most people don't understand about them is that they are actually bearings! No binding, no preload and easier to install than oem style bushings. They aren't exactly cheap but I do expect them to last quite a while, even on the street as they are sealed by a rubber boot that should keep out water and dirt. Not ideal for a street driven car as they transmit a fair amount of road noise as well as feedback from the suspension.
Because a full set of Hard Race bushings is over $1,600!!!
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Well, I successfully negotiated a group discount for the next two weeks with PowerFlex and Evasive motorsports. Please see my link above or check the top of the suspension thread. I got all the control arm bushings they had available for $370.
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