Brownergy

My relevant set up would be an AP2 with non staggered wheels/tires with daily driving duty as well as light track usage. I'm looking for a decent suspension setup -$1750, 1.5"+ drop, plenty of shock travel, easy tunability/adjustability as well as great durability. I personally feel like the KW's are proven, but I'm not exactly sold on them yet. I've had many T1R parts, and am impressed with their value so they've caught my attention with their most recent kit.

So that said, what do you guys think would be best for me? I hope to hear from owners of both kits!

TIA,
Ryan B.

vollrathian

ive heard so many good things about kwv3's cant go wrong here

MyEeek

KW Variant 3.

neveronlines2k

I felt the same, but am very happy with my choice to go with KW V3's. I have no regrets.

I wish I knew more about setting up the footwork to really get all the benefit from the adjustability, but they have made the car much more enjoyable while driving near the limit.

hk_s2k

lots of good feed back on the KWs, but haven't seen much reviews on the T1R...

chetly

I think the 15-3 vote with a 5-1 ratio says it all.

B serious

I bought my KWs for the moderate spring rates and excellent quality reputation.

I think the T1R spring rates were a little higher than I would have gone...even though the T1R wasn't on my mind when I was in the market.

I love my KW3s for driving around town...but I only put them on a few months ago, and track season just opened up. I will probably hit a track in May/jun/july lol...my schedule is INSANE right now.

I can't wait to get them on a track...they seem very very predictable. However, i dont know about a non-staggered setup with these.

They have the same spring rate f to r. It's around 550lbs/in, IIRC. (8k ish)

Good luck!

EternalLx

its 515lbs/in which is about 9.3kg

another for kw v3

Brownergy

Yeah, but understand that the KW's have been out over 5 times as long as the T1R's. Trust me I've heard alot of positive feedback about the KW's, enough so that Ive suggested them and don't even own them. There are simple facts though that may suggest the T1R's are a rival.

1. The T1R is made of chromoly so it's probably a lot lighter.
2. The T1R is a monotube design.
3. Comes with pillowball mount.

Those are the major pluses of the T1R's over the KW's. Do those qualities warrant enough consideration over a proven product such as the KW's? I don't know, but that's the reason for my post? Where's all the T1R owners? Where's AJR or Evasive?

B serious

The KWs are made from stainless. Which will resist rust better than chromoly. Chromoly is only slightly lighter than a good stainless steel...but they're both steel bodied coilovers. Heavy either way. Not a big deal, though.

The pillowball mounts are not a benefit in my book. I'd rather use the stock strut mounts. Pillowball mounts dont do much if at all in a double wishbone or multilink setup. They're good only for Macpherson strut setups. You have an upper control arm and ball joint to control lateral movement of the suspension. You dont need a solid pillowball mount. It will only add harshness to the ride. If it was a race car, the incremental increase in steering response or spring response brought around by pillowball mounts would be a benefit. For a street car, it's more annoying than it is helpful.

The monotube design may be the only advantage. But I dont know much about the T1R's other features.