what Suspension setup should I do?
 

Hey everyone... I own a 2007 Honda s2k lol and I live on Long Island N.Y....

It's time for me to lower her. I want to do everything the right way . So that's why I was thinking doing a coilover setup but prob will just do springs.. It's going to be for everyday drivin and for comfort but, I want it to be to low. Don't want to it mess my bumper up and would like it to ride like stock or better.

If everyone can please post what is the best spring that's out .. ..

Thanks,
Kevin

Before you get flamed, what's your budget and is this for looks or tracking/autoX

I don't really have a budget ... So I don't mind spending the money on Sus.. I would say for now just for looks and comfort but, who knows laterrrr if I want to take it to the track or just learning how to drift lol..

Should I get coilovers or just like springs/struts

First of all, the car comes with an EXCELLENT coilover setup from the factory. If you want to just lower it I would suggest either Eibach Pro Kit or Swift springs. If you just have money to play around and want to actually improve on the car's handling, then I suggest KW V3's. They are excellent coilovers w/ external oil reservoirs on all shocks.

many people also like Bilstein PSS9's.

For know I don't think I'm going to do any hard handling lol.. Just really for looks and comfort I think.. If I do springs should I do struts also?

It would be a wast of money if I do buy coilovers and don't use them for what they are meant for? Just though if I did coilovers everything would be better ride/comfort and plus I can change the height.

It wouldn't be a waste of money if you spend the money now on a nice set of coilovers. Later on if you need to put it to use you'll always have it readily available. If you're going to lower it and want comfort and awesome handling later, do it right the first time so you won't waste time and money. KW v3 FTW! ... I have some and they are awesome btw. :D

Trying to think.. I think i'm just going to be the person for comfort and everyday drivin .. I don't think i'm goin to try any of the drifting or stuff lol.. I'm like a grl with the car lol...

Well what's the best spring kit?

Will the Eibach Pro Kit 00-06 fit on my 2007 ?

Also is there a website that everyone get's there sus that's good and cheap?

Thanks

I had Eibachs on stock shocks, then I changed to Bilstein PSS9. The PSS9 definitely handles better and rides better too. Plus, you can adjust the ride height and dampening. The PSS9 is a great street setup for this car.

If you're going to be doing more than a handful of track days a year then something stiffer would give you faster lap times... at the expense of being harsher on the street.

I might go to the track maybe ones...

Best for me is Comfort/ride and for the streets bec, I put alot of miles on the car. and something that's going to ride like stock or even better lol...

Bilstein PSS9 is a coilover

Is it worth for me to spend say $1,500 to $2,000 or you think spendin say $250 is fine for what i'm lookin for?

Thankssss

There are just soooo many named brand springs I just have nc what to get.. I just want everyone to pick one out for me.. Is they like one that killllls the others?

these are all excellent choices

Is there a differences in the Eibach Pro Kit or Swift springs? Or there just deff in prices?

i run the eibach pro kit. both are progressive rate springs, and both drop about an inch. however, if i had to do it all over again, i would go with swift. i have heard nothing but good things about swift.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3383/59425665ao1.jpg

if you want to go lower than this safely, i would get bilstein pss9

For spring on OEM struts you have only two choices IMO Eibach or Swift.

Save your money and go with a light drop spring or get the PSS9

KW3 are double adjustable with stiffer spring rates, it will require attention to dial in both rebound and compression and come at a premium price (well worth it if your getting into serious racing and using R compounds).

im actually looking for springs to. im on LI to and I drive a lot. but I don't mind harsher rides as long as it can handle better. im going ground control sprngs and koni yellows at the same time. should handle amazng wit my sway and x brace im ordering :)

Edit button FTW

I love my Skunk2's, best drop IMO.

All those 1 inchers..eeh, really not worth it. My buddy has eibach, and people are always telling him he should drop his car, he always has to explain that it is droped..but thats just my 2 cents.

why no Esplier?

You think if I go lower then 1 in Will I start like scraping and messing my front bumper up?

i'm sorry what's that?

I tried the edit botton .. would not let me edit the poll part...

im in the process of installing Espliers on the S. So far i love the drop in the front...hopefully the rear will get dropped this weekend.

What are Espliers ? LOL ...

no...i havent had any rubing issue's or scraped my bumper, I have a lip too but no problem.

Some people are telling me 1 inch drops are not worth it. Saying people always can't tell. They have to explain that it is dropped. Any comments on that? Is a 1 in really not that low? That it's not a night and day differences? I want people to know my s2k is lowered but, at the same time I don

I might let the poll do my buying lol....

Should I keep my stock struts?

if you want? you could get some Koni yellows, but in reality the s2k struts are built Ford tough and will take the abuse from a shorter spring..lol

That's what my friend was saying that the oem struts are great ! On my old RSX they suxed lol..

I was in the same boat as you. I did my search and decided to go with Espelirs. Do a search on "Espelir" and read up on what everyone has said about them.

I am going to do the OEM Fromt Lip & I think 1" will be perfect, looks slightly lower the stock, especially with stock wheels, besides I hear you will compromise some of the handling with just "slamming" the car with springs only

espelir's are pretty bad a$$, my two choices were espelir or skunk2, they both got nice drops, and have good feedback. But I chose skunk2 because the drop is slighty lower. But my car def. rides like stock if not better, a tiny bit more oversteer, feels like its from the back tho.

I love it!, I do the coolest U-turns in Miami..lol

[QUOTE=hondata1,Feb 22 2008, 03:02 AM] Hey everyone it

If you are sticking with OEM shocks I would get Eibach or Swift. Like I said earlier, these are only a 1" drop and I posted a picture of my car to illustrate this.

If you want to be slammed, Espelir is about a 2" drop. If you decide to go this route, I would also get Koni Yellows. After buying all of this though you could have spent the money on a used set of Bilstein PSS9. In fact there is a set for sale in the forums for $950.

Hope this helps

You said before if you could do it over you would do the Swift. Why? Just bec, you heard better things about them?? Thanksss for the help

Because it would match my Swift front sway bar :LOL:

Here is a quick review of Swift springs. Maxrev is a member on the forum, his website is very cool.
http://maxrev.net/swift.htm

So he took his hole coilover setup off? and just installed The swift springs?

He replaced the springs on the coilovers with swift..

ESPELIR, you know what i means

Oww I see I didn't know you can do that..

Can everyone please add to the poll and vote ..

Thanks so much :)

man everytime you add something ur counter gets reset, buy some springs ur prob. not gonna go racing at a track often right? why you want all that adjustability your gonna have to align your car everytime you mess with it.

Get your self some springs, if you want that extra edge and reliability get some koni shocks too. What you have to consider is how low you wanna go??

My car 2 inch+ drop. (Skunk2, Espelir...)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9397/27162474or2.png

or

1 inch drop (eibach, tein...)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...ropwork003.jpg

Is that your yellow s2k? If so do you have any pics in the day light? Like the white one
Also for that lower drop what is better Skunk2 or Espelir ?

idk I like them both..the first pic is pretty recent, the second is pretty new 2, the third was the day after i put my springs, so they hadnt settled yet. the car droped antother 1/2 inch after about a week.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8...2kkkro0vr3.png
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8485/44269372hh8.png
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4020/67771112ee2.png

Looking nice Mann .. Now do you have any problems when you drive like going up driveways or speed bumps? Any scraping or things like that? Bec, we have nothing put potholes and steep inclines.

the only speed bump i rub is the local mcdonalds one, but i rub towards the middle not the front or back?

Do yourself and your struts a favour, don't go more then 1" unless you get coilovers.

It's always a smart idea to keep the OEM stuff in good shape so when it's time to sell the car, you can get some money back on the aftermarket parts and sell it stock.

everything u have listed is meh.

please keep the votes coming ...

Eibach>Swifts>Skunk2>Espelir IMO. :)

[QUOTE=hondata1,Feb 22 2008, 10:21 AM]I want people to know my s2k is lowered but, at the same time I don

keeep the votes cominn please...

After much research and 2+ years of reading I have just purchased the Spoon Sports non-adjustable setup. This consists of a shock / spring package that is manufactured by the same manufacturer that the OE stuff is...Showa. This will lower the car approx 1".
I decided to go this way after reading several reviews about putting either Eibach or Swift springs on the OE shocks. I also have a friend who had Eibach on his 2002 with OE shocks and I did not like the fact that it sits a bit higher in the front than in the back.
Several reviewers (on S2ki.com) said that the Swift springs were great but had a bit more "bounce" than they would like (with the OE shocks). I do not want ANY more increased

For reference, here is a list of some spring rates that I have gathered from various posts on this site:

Bilstein PSS9
Fr: 345 lb with 85 lb helper springs
Rr: 285 lb


OEM Spring rates by year (front/rear)
00-01 Fr: 218(3.9) - Rr: 291(5.2)
02-03 Fr: 240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)*
04-07 Fr: 256(4.57) - Rr: 207(3.7)*
08-up Fr: 274(4.89) - Rr: 225(4.0)*
08CR Fr: 375(6.7) - Rr: 264(4.71)*

*Estimates based on published % changes from Honda.

Spoon is 4.7 (263) / 6.9 (386) f/r

Swift is 4.55 (254) / 6.0 (335) f/r

Espelir ASD springs

- Front 5.3 kgmm
- Rear 7.0 kgmm
- An average drop of 1.3"
- OEM comfort

Conversion
1 kg/mm = 2.2lb/ (1/25.4) in
1 kg/mm = 55.88lb/in

^ why would the espelir have a harder rear spring than front? That would be dangerous as shit on a RWD car... Are your #'s backwards?

[QUOTE=05S2k02Si,Feb 23 2008, 07:13 AM] After much research and 2+ years of reading I have just purchased the Spoon Sports non-adjustable setup. This consists of a shock / spring package that is manufactured by the same manufacturer that the OE stuff is...Showa. This will lower the car approx 1".
I decided to go this way after reading several reviews about putting either Eibach or Swift springs on the OE shocks. I also have a friend who had Eibach on his 2002 with OE shocks and I did not like the fact that it sits a bit higher in the front than in the back.
Several reviewers (on S2ki.com) said that the Swift springs were great but had a bit more "bounce" than they would like (with the OE shocks). I do not want ANY more increased

Thanks.... Just want a sick look and a really good ride...

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...3-08_16181.jpg

Espelirs

[QUOTE=ECale3,Feb 23 2008, 10:55 AM] ^ why would the espelir have a harder rear spring than front?

you have any better pics ?

Thanks

Also can everyone start posting some clear pics of what springs they have for me? What brand height and how they like it.

Thank you..

Eibach. They always sat a little too high in the rear on my car. Not adjustable. Too soft of a spring rate up front, too stiff in back. Oversteer handling, ride not great. Basically just AP1 rates plus 10% stiffness and a 1" drop.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=157239

Bilstein PSS9. Height is adjustable, running at 1 finger all the way around. Very smooth and refined ride, easily adjustable dampening. Significantly better handling than stock or Eibach. Works pretty good on the track set on full stiff, although not as good as dedicated (stiff, expensive) track coilovers.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=445108

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...29105a9cbc.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...1d46958293.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...a30da7c84c.jpg

You see how bad I need to lower it lol...

I went with Tein Stechs on my AP2 and am happy with the result. I can't go too low here in Hawaii due to the fact that there are speed-bumps and potholes everywhere, as well as the steep entrances to many areas. Overall the Teins feel good; little bit stiffer than stock and just low enough.

for the espilir users; are you on oe shocks? i also need a good drop

these arent any better LoL but better than the quick cell phone pic

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...C/s2000-15.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...C/s2000-10.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...MC/s2000-1.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...MC/s2000-3.jpg

yes sir, stock shocks

thats sweet that drop looks awesome and nice yr/color choice!

how does it ride?

:thumbup: :D

like stock but stiffer , these are a good tide-me-over till i get coilovers

:)

:thumbup:

bumpp

SWIFT and Espelir have been like one vote off the hole time..

im really liking the espelirs, very nice drop!