CR Suspension and nonstaggered alignment help
01-31-2012, 08:21 AM
#11
Registered User
I have not had my CR for long and I do not yet have a square setup, however, I was am planning on starting with a somewhat mild alignment using the following settings, I know this works wonders on non staggered but if I want to go with a square setup later in the year, would I be shooting myself in the foot?
I plan to drive the car in lots of auto-x and some track days.
6+ caster in front
0 toe front
.02 positive toe in rear with .04 total toe in rear
-1.6 camber front
-1.8 camber in rear
I plan to drive the car in lots of auto-x and some track days.
6+ caster in front
0 toe front
.02 positive toe in rear with .04 total toe in rear
-1.6 camber front
-1.8 camber in rear
Front (OEM/J's)
max caster / max caster
max camber (you'll get about -1.7) / -2.8 to -3.0
0 toe
Rear
-2.6 to -2.9 camber (basically max it out)
1/8" total toe-in (1/16" toe-in each corner)
Good luck!
02-01-2012, 07:01 AM
#12
Front only or front and rear? How much track time will you be seeing? Do you have a preference in how loose the car is in the rear? Is tire wear a concern?
I run these specs currently, and the car is pretty balanced. I'll be going to 1/8" total toe on my next alignment; I want the rear to rotate faster.
front
-3.3 camber
6.5 caster
0 toe
rear
-3.3 camber
5/32" total toe-in
Conservative track settings would be something like this, assuming you have only a front camber kit:
front
-2.5 camber
6 caster
0 toe
rear
-2.75 camber
3/16" total toe in
The toe will make the rear less likely to come out (more rear stability), as will having extra camber in the back compared to the front (larger contact patch in the rear compared to the front).
What speeds do you hit at the tracks (in turns) you run at?
I run these specs currently, and the car is pretty balanced. I'll be going to 1/8" total toe on my next alignment; I want the rear to rotate faster.
front
-3.3 camber
6.5 caster
0 toe
rear
-3.3 camber
5/32" total toe-in
Conservative track settings would be something like this, assuming you have only a front camber kit:
front
-2.5 camber
6 caster
0 toe
rear
-2.75 camber
3/16" total toe in
The toe will make the rear less likely to come out (more rear stability), as will having extra camber in the back compared to the front (larger contact patch in the rear compared to the front).
What speeds do you hit at the tracks (in turns) you run at?
02-01-2012, 10:17 AM
#13
Are you looking for more of an autox or track setup? The two are mutually exclusive, unfortunately.
AutoX demands sharp initial response at the cost of static grip, while the track is the opposite.
AutoX demands sharp initial response at the cost of static grip, while the track is the opposite.
02-01-2012, 12:25 PM
#14
02-01-2012, 12:37 PM
#15
How comfortable are you with a loose rear end? What does your experience consist of? How many times have you spun out (disclaimer: I've spun out so many times I've lost count)?
You should come out to a s2k challenge
Tell me how you want the car to feel, and I'll give you a recommendation (keeping in mind that tire wear is not a concern).
You should come out to a s2k challenge
Tell me how you want the car to feel, and I'll give you a recommendation (keeping in mind that tire wear is not a concern).
02-01-2012, 12:50 PM
#16
How comfortable are you with a loose rear end? What does your experience consist of? How many times have you spun out (disclaimer: I've spun out so many times I've lost count)?
You should come out to a s2k challenge
Tell me how you want the car to feel, and I'll give you a recommendation (keeping in mind that tire wear is not a concern).
You should come out to a s2k challenge
Tell me how you want the car to feel, and I'll give you a recommendation (keeping in mind that tire wear is not a concern).
02-01-2012, 12:53 PM
#18
The next S2k Challenge is at ACS (Auto Club Speedway) in Fontana, so you probably won't spin there; it's a relatively simple track.
Event #2 - Saturday, February 25: Auto Club Speedway Roval
Rules here (it seems complicated, but it's not; I can answer any questions you have): https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/920...allenge-rules/
Signup link is here: http://www.speedventures.com/events/...il.aspx?id=370
Conveniently, Saturday also includes a beginner group, and there will be plenty of us to give you a ride along and/or ride with you. There are some SD guys that track; they have a thread in the SD subsection.: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/819...and-autocross/
Event #2 - Saturday, February 25: Auto Club Speedway Roval
Rules here (it seems complicated, but it's not; I can answer any questions you have): https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/920...allenge-rules/
Signup link is here: http://www.speedventures.com/events/...il.aspx?id=370
Conveniently, Saturday also includes a beginner group, and there will be plenty of us to give you a ride along and/or ride with you. There are some SD guys that track; they have a thread in the SD subsection.: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/819...and-autocross/
