Cutting up my CR to add a roll bar, would I be crazy?
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It's your car!.....But, since you're asking. It's like buying the Mona Lisa because you need a canvas to paint on. Why not sell the CR for top dollar, being it is low mileage and a delete, and use the money to buy a clean AP2, pay for all your mods you may want to do and still have a few bucks left over. When it comes time to sell your AP2, you're not going to get someone lowballing you, because you butchered a collector car. Wish I could say, sell me your CR. GL
This is on point!
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I'd leave the CR alone and completely OEM. Enjoyment is there. Value is retained ('cuz either you or your widow will eventually sell it) and few of us car drive even our plebian "base" models to their limit of performance although we kid ourselves we can.
The CR was mis-named. It was never a competitive race(er) car. Perhaps the intent was to have races among the other CRs in the "club." But that was 10 years ago and the cars are quickly becoming collector cars by their rarity and unique styling. If I wanted to go racing I'd get a Miata or even a MGA . Lots of support for the first one and John Deere technology for the second for guys who like to take engines apart. But any racing activity is a money pit if you want to win or even be first or second losers (only one guy on the podium is a winner). Cars, motorcycles, even sailboats. Taking the car to the track for the simple enjoyment of driving you shouldn't do on the street is something else and you don't need a buggered race car that ain't really a race car do to this.
-- Chuck
The CR was mis-named. It was never a competitive race(er) car. Perhaps the intent was to have races among the other CRs in the "club." But that was 10 years ago and the cars are quickly becoming collector cars by their rarity and unique styling. If I wanted to go racing I'd get a Miata or even a MGA . Lots of support for the first one and John Deere technology for the second for guys who like to take engines apart. But any racing activity is a money pit if you want to win or even be first or second losers (only one guy on the podium is a winner). Cars, motorcycles, even sailboats. Taking the car to the track for the simple enjoyment of driving you shouldn't do on the street is something else and you don't need a buggered race car that ain't really a race car do to this.
-- Chuck
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It's actually a simple decision. (Maybe not easy, but simple.)
1) Decide whether you're going to track the car regularly/seriously. That means anything from frequent "fun-oriented" track days, to competitive time trial series, to W2W racing.
2) If the answer to any of those is Yes, then do the safety mods, and do them properly. The few grand you lose by tearing up the interior will be saved 10 (or 100) times over the first time you have an incident and walk away, rather than being medivac'd out. Remember, you can drive as carefully as you want, but there are a lot of things that are out of your control: wheel hubs break, brakes fail, other drivers get red mist, and some tracks just don't have all the runoff area that they should. I once had a newly-installed rear wheel *valve stem* pop its seal at 1.3 lateral g's, and in an instant I was facing the guy behind me.
My advice: Enjoy your car - it's very special, it offers tons of driving fun plus camaraderie with like-minded owners, and frankly that's why you bought it. But, Safety First!... Resale value? Meh; like, 874th.
1) Decide whether you're going to track the car regularly/seriously. That means anything from frequent "fun-oriented" track days, to competitive time trial series, to W2W racing.
2) If the answer to any of those is Yes, then do the safety mods, and do them properly. The few grand you lose by tearing up the interior will be saved 10 (or 100) times over the first time you have an incident and walk away, rather than being medivac'd out. Remember, you can drive as carefully as you want, but there are a lot of things that are out of your control: wheel hubs break, brakes fail, other drivers get red mist, and some tracks just don't have all the runoff area that they should. I once had a newly-installed rear wheel *valve stem* pop its seal at 1.3 lateral g's, and in an instant I was facing the guy behind me.
My advice: Enjoy your car - it's very special, it offers tons of driving fun plus camaraderie with like-minded owners, and frankly that's why you bought it. But, Safety First!... Resale value? Meh; like, 874th.
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Tracked the CR at Buttonwillow for the first time (without roll bar) and managed a 2:01xx. I will admit there was a couple moments I wish I had extra added safety lol