AP1 Greddy Installed!
 

Well, after two days, and LOTS of cursing and cigarettes, it's finally in. I will post up some tips for those who are installing AP1 kits (I don't know if AP2s are physically the same) as the instructions will cause you valuable time, and possibly money.

I don't have photos of the finished product, as my camera died, but I will post up the "finished pictures" as soon as I can get the car cleaned up.

1)Almost a huge cockup #1...look at the AEM UEGO bung...had I had it welded 1/4" closer to the OEM secondary O2, I would have been screwed, as the black crossmember would be in the way. However, it did fit, and everything was all good. Also, don't buy the ceramic ring gasket, the kit comes with one. Waste of $40.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818252

2)Greddy heat wrap....looks like total crap. Makes the kit look like it was made from Home Depot. Replaced it with nice, tightly wrapped header wrap. (Material is exactly the same). No photo yet, will post one up soon.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818343

3)Greddy cockup#1. INSTALL THE TURBO FIRST. Don't do anything else. Remove the VTEC solenoid as well, and slide it through the front. It doesn't fit through the bottom, and doesn't fit with the oil lines in the way.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818421

4)My main mechanic/friend (Steve) looking constipated tightning the manifold bolts. PITA to install.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818559

5)Downpipe bolted to test pipe. Big ups to Berk for making a quality piece.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818678

6)Soaking up the coolant. Not too much came out. Have a wrag there to soak it up, otherwise, it will hit the motor, and burn off when you are driving. Not dangerous, but the smell will start scaring you.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818762

7)Here is the dumb harness engineering. Attempt #1. Didn't quite work. Don't pay attention to the other wires, you car won't have them.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818846

8)Intercooler in place. The intercooler touches the soda can looking thing (AC condenser I believe) To I cut half a coupler and placed it in between the two. Brackets should have been longer.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206818949

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206819048

9)Yours truly working on the airpump. Another cockup. You don't need to remove hoses, just unclip the clips, and move them over.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...g?t=1206819091

Thats it for now. I will get more photos from my other camera, and post up some more info/steps.

Now, if you have questions, as me. Asking other members here might not be as useful to you, as they actually know what they are talking about, and a lot of things seem easy to them. I am a total retard when it comes to this stuff, and will be able to answer questions on a 3rd grade level. :LOL:

So far, everything is good, runs strong, except I got a CEL P0122. Any ideas? Is it the throttle body problem? I didn't really do much? I also heard the EMANAGE harness is actually wired wrong, so maybe that's what causes it? Any help would be much appreciated. Another symptom seems to be the warm idle (after the car is warmed up) seems to be erratic. When driving, and I come to a light, the idle will drop and then back to normal, drop, back to normal. My research tells me that it might have something to do with the code.

The CEL comes on 3 seconds after the car is started (if cleared).

Oh, and one more thing.....let's put the "this kit makes low power nonsense aside for a moment."

This is not a bragging or bashing post....just information for those that are interested in this kit.

So, first of all, please get the "I'm gonna rape everything that moves" out of your heads. If you want that, you need Inline pro.


This kit, makes the s2000 feel like it should have felt from factory. It has very strong pulling power now from 3500rpm on, and drives like it should. It is an excellent kit for those who want to make the s2000 "up to date" and not anemic down low. It's a light car, and the power comes in a nice, smooth curve. No tire bursting torque. This is the closest kit I have found to what I have dreamed the s2000 to be, the body/chassis of an s2000, with an E46m3 motor power curve. It is fantastic.

Looks like a major pain in the ass.

The one thing I hate most about all the Greddy turbo kits is the stupid universal length oil feed line they provide with all their kits.

Honestly, it wasn't. The biggest problem was honestly me. Since I am inexperienced, I actually used the intructions. Had I known what I was doing, I would have done it in half the time, since the instructions actually slowed me down. The instructions are written 1/2 for a RHD car, and the other 1/2 for a LHD. Confusing, and I had to remove a lot of stuff I spend an hour putting back on because the instructions were wrong.


However, I will post this for future use for Greddy kit owners in case something happens.

Your denial of responsibility means nothing. You shipped an advertised "kit" with installations instructions. The instructions were blatantly wrong. You should have seen this, and not shipped the kit complete, and blame install errors on the customer. Since you shipped out the kit without correcting said instructions, you ARE responsible for your products, and all implied US new goods warranties."

[QUOTE=NFRs2000NYC,Mar 29 2008, 11:43 AM] Oh, and one more thing.....let's put the "this kit makes low power nonsense aside for a moment."

This is not a bragging or bashing post....just information for those that are interested in this kit.

So, first of all, please get the "I'm gonna rape everything that moves" out of your heads.

Glad you got it installed finally.

Here's a few things:

1. Heatwrap is heatwrap, looks better the more time you spend to carefully wrap the parts. Here's a shot of mine. Cut the wrap so it could make the bends in the hoses easier, and used wire instead of zip ties to secure it down.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...48c3bcc17f.jpg

2. To prevent the IC core from hitting the AC can thing, just bend the bracket holding the can back a little. It barely touches, so you don't have to bend that much.

3. There's nothing wrong with the emanage harness wiring.

4. You don't need to remove the entire VTEC solenoid to get the turbo in through the front. IIRC you only need to remove the gray plug sticking perpendicular from the solenoid and the intake braket on the chassis. And yes, the turbo should be installed before the oil lines. If you guys installed the oil lines first and don't want to uninstall them, just bend the AC lines back and drop the turbo in from above.

5. What are you getting at with this? I don't think greddy has blamed it's customers for bad installs...

[QUOTE=NFRs2000NYC,Mar 29 2008, 01:10 PM]

[B]Your denial of responsibility means nothing. You shipped an advertised "kit" with installations instructions. The instructions were blatantly wrong.

Hey Chris. Thanks for your help. As for my bold lettered type, please don't take offense. I know you work for Greddy, and I didn't mean it to sound rude to you in any way. I have a great deal of experience dealing with Greddy customer service because of my friend's RSX kit. They refused to replace his cracked turbo, even though it was an epidemic on clubrsx and they KNEW it was a problem. However, unlike my lazy friend, I am very vigilant when it comes to money, and having three lawyers in my family, I wouldn't let it go. The post was made so that it's PROOF in the date.

I don't hold anything against Greddy (or else I wouldn't have installed the kit) but I do get angry at companies that don't stand behind their products, and make the customer foot the bill. So far, based on the s2000 greddy kits with problems, they have been dealing with them rather well. I hope they learned their lesson, and continue to provide good customer service.

Again, as for you personally, I do thank you for your help, and appreciate what you have contributed to the forum. Thanks again.

no worries, it helps to know the basis behind your comment now. I would probably feel the same way. Greddy's customer service has had a bad rep in the past, i've read some old threads on other forums. But we've been working hard to turn the image around :)

P0122 Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch A Circuit Low Input.

Let see If I can shed some light on the subject.

First have you confirmed that you have an AP1 tuned kit/ harness.
The AP1 kits does not change the TPS Voltage ramp.
The AP2 kits changes the TPS voltage as a very specific point up to 4V to trick the stock computer in open loop by making it thing the throttle is at 80%.

(The AP2 has a more restrictive set of inputs to force the computer into open loop. Hence the need to change the Voltage ramp.)



I have had a lot of experience in this area as I have had to do the same thing that Greedy did on there kit but on my SOT Supercharger. My ramp is much more detailed then there

[QUOTE=MugenRioS2k,Mar 30 2008, 12:39 AM] P0122 Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch A Circuit Low Input.

Let see If I can shed some light on the subject.

First have you confirmed that you have an AP1 tuned kit/ harness.
The AP1 kits does not change the TPS Voltage ramp.
The AP2 kits changes the TPS voltage as a very specific point up to 4V to trick the stock computer in open loop by making it thing the throttle is at 80%.

(The AP2 has a more restrictive set of inputs to force the computer into open loop. Hence the need to change the Voltage ramp.)



I have had a lot of experience in this area as I have had to do the same thing that Greedy did on there kit but on my SOT Supercharger. My ramp is much more detailed then there