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Old 07-12-2014, 08:06 PM
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i just finish doing the t56 swap in my car not a bad tranny its out of a 06 viper truck i shouldnt have any issues with this since it the gears are made of the same material as the ppg and gforce gears. I need to get a new shifter and setup my speedo and i'll be good to go
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Informative thread

I assume all is well with the stock transmission for guys running in the 500-550whp range? (assuming the driver doesn't consistently beat on it like a gorilla).
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I'd go for a Quaife personally.
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what power is the quaife rated for?
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Old 07-12-2014, 09:38 PM
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Hmmmm they rate the heavy duty 6 speed sequential boxes to 750HP, so may not be suitable, but people making more than that still run them. Guess it depends on the use of the car, no one is really going to run 1000HP in an endurance event.
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That is the info i found too...750hp.
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Old 07-13-2014, 02:18 AM
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Redboost10 are u running a Gforce and which one?
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Old 07-13-2014, 04:11 AM
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gf5r clutchless 5 speed
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Originally Posted by Suprdave View Post
Exactly, I dunno why the v160 is so popular...for the money, there's definitely better options:

if someone really wanted to go fast, I would use the FBM mounting kit...but run a Modded A340 from an Auto Supra, from Sound Performance ... and control it with a trans box from PCS...

The weak part of the A340 was the 2nd gear sprag, and SP has a Billet piece...lockup converter...lighter car...and slicks...makes 8s look pretty easy, without needing 1100whp.

Or you dudes need to lookup RacerStev, who heat-treats the stock gears...shit works amazing on FWD Hondas, I've used it. He's on Honda-tech and all over, If I remember, he used to race a Suzuki back in the day and there with no options...I think we need to collectively figure out a stock-trans option thats good upto 750whp or so. I've been out of the game for awhile, but I've personally ran FWD Hondas into the 9s on those gears, back in like 2007 with ~700whp. If you sent in a brand-new 2nd and 4th...its only a few hundo to do, i'm pretty sure it would hold. If you wanted to go harder you could do the WPC Metal treatment on the gears also...

People need to start experimenting with restricting the flow on the twin-disk setups...so the 'hit' isn't so hard. The shock is what mercs out the trannys on all cars. Nitrous jets work good...or go Carbon-Carbon on the clutch so the hit isn't as hard, more driveable too.

If combined with a PPG 1:1 Drop Gear, you have the gearing to run 9s on a stock trans and a ~26" tire, without shifting into 5th.

The main idea I'm trying to get across, is that the answer might be alot easier and cheaper than the general consensus...

RacerStev-treated Gears w\ WPC Treatment, PPG 1:1 Billet Drop Gear, a Puddymod Diff w\ Quaife and a SOS Carbon-Carbon Twin...DSS Aluminum or CF Driveshaft, and Axles if yer feelin' froggy...I'm pretty convinced that would be a super legit setup with no downsides. If you properly setup your Boost by Gear and didn't drive it like a douche...lift and shift, I'm pretty sure it could be a low 10 setup all day with 600-650whp. The gear treatment has been proven to hold 750-800whp...if you combine with the WPC treatment (Its all over MotoIQ)...which you can do to the synchro-rings and gears so they don't round-off so easily.

To be completely honest, that's going to be my eventual trans setup. I put it together from the point of view of building a drive-able, quiet, enjoyable, setup for a real 6-700whp streetcar...that would be reliable enough to goto the track, peel off consistent 10sec passes, then drive home.

If you wanna go faster, you need to put an Auto in the car...or a G-Force 4-speed. Spending 5-10k to put another OEM Trans(v160) in yer car that runs hot and rattles like it's broken...

A street car, should be something that you can pick-up a date in...who isn't into cars...and ideally, beable to take her on the date without her ever freaking out...or wondering what that clunking sound is...etc etc.

The point i'm getting at, is that if we can easily make 600whp-700whp on a stock-engine...we need the stock trans and rear-end to support that. That needs to be the line in the sand...

600-700whp Street Car - Modded\Improved Stock Parts

700whp+ - Not really a streetcar anymore (8.8, G-Force or Auto)

I've got over 1000hrs tuning on the dyno back in the day, and have seen every car...but theres really nothing i've driven more fun than a quick-spooling turbo s2000.

It's not always about throwing money at things...
This is a great idea. I always think its best to keep things as simple as possible. I might consider doing this when I pull my trans out to do the clutch. My trans is butter smooth right now but I have not gone turbo yet.
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Dave where are you tuning cars now? Do you ever come by the Chicago area anymore?
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