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Old 08-18-2017, 05:37 PM
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Unfortunately my good friend passed away and I inherited his AP2. Along with it came a complete (uninstalled) Full Race borg warner 7670 turbo kit. I'm looking forward to building it in his honor but could use some guidance. The engine has 160k miles so I pulled it and am about to send it to a machine shop for inspection. I'm new to the F22c and not sure what they can handle. I asked Full Race and they recommended the following but I see they sell these products so I suspect biases.

*JE Pistons
*Manley Rods
*Ferrea Valves

Here are some builds I've found in my research that are similar but the supporting mods are all over the place. Hard to judge what is overkill.

Passmans build
YamahaSHO build
Misc 7670 builds thread
Jin_SK Build

I'm also considering these additional upgrades.
  • AEM Infinity (Seems to be the most common engine management)
  • ID1300 injectors (The kit came with 1000s but I've read that they fall out in the 550 range. 2000's have rough idle)
  • Fuel pump (Kit comes with walbro 255)
  • Wiring harness (Stock harness is in rough shape. I see rywire & wireworx are common but jesus they are expensive. Anything comparable?)

Couple pictures of the car & kit.


Old 08-18-2017, 06:37 PM
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I would spend the extra for a bigger pump (in comparison maybe $30 extra bucks) for a 300-450lph pump.

u get what u pay for with cheap wire harnesses (all ill say about that)

as far as machine shops and engine builds imo (whats your budget, trust, and how much do you rely on the vehicle) also i can see your "concern" with mileage... but lol have you done a check up on it? Never know... if compression is good id give it a good sprint and keep up on the maintenance, she might surprise ya :wink: ...i see u already pulled it though.

looks like a good start though!

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Stock bottom end and built ferrea head should work fine for your goals.
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Look into ID1700 and a rewire 450 fuel pump. Inlinepro also does top of the line engine building. Any use wire harness will do unless your going for a wire tuck. What year ap2? Does it have a fuel return system?
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Who makes those carbon fenders? Look nicely done.

You sound like an honourable friend and they will be proud of you when you're done
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Thanks for the input so far, keep the recommendations coming. Today I bought:

Ferrea valve guides
Ferrea dual valve & retainer kit
Ferrea valve guides

I'm stuck on which head studs to get though. It's between the FBM H11's or ARP. I get the feeling that ARP studs are fine for 650ish?

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Look into ID1700 and a rewire 450 fuel pump. Inlinepro also does top of the line engine building. Any use wire harness will do unless your going for a wire tuck. What year ap2? Does it have a fuel return system?
Why are you recommending the 1700 over the 1300? Also, do they both support E85? It's a 2005. It does not have a fuel return system yet. Any recommendations?
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Originally Posted by S2KIWI
Who makes those carbon fenders? Look nicely done.

You sound like an honourable friend and they will be proud of you when you're done
Sorry mate, I don't know where he got them and there is not markings on them. And thanks, I hope I can do right by him!
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Originally Posted by Atx350
Thanks for the input so far, keep the recommendations coming. Today I bought:

Ferrea valve guides
Ferrea dual valve & retainer kit
Ferrea valve guides

I'm stuck on which head studs to get though. It's between the FBM H11's or ARP. I get the feeling that ARP studs are fine for 650ish?



Why are you recommending the 1700 over the 1300? Also, do they both support E85? It's a 2005. It does not have a fuel return system yet. Any recommendations?
2000-2005 have a return fuel system, so you are good there
I think the 1300cc injectors will be fine. I'm on 1200cc injectors and am at 620hp on E85 at ~ base fuel pressure and not maxing my injectors out yet (I do have a big fuel system though)
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^Which fuel system do you have? That's next on my buy list followed by head studs.
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Im sure a lot would say "better safe then sorry" on paper 1300s might be able to touch 650 on e85 but not every build is the same. ... probably the reason someone suggested stepping up.


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