ID 1000's and E85?
11-03-2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sbrodacz,Nov 3 2009, 06:56 PM
STL2SLW is running a walbro 255 fed into a surge tank and then a bosch 044. He's running ID1000's. He's making 620hp with a 6262.
STL2SLW, hope you do not mind me posting your info. Martin, you should be able to make 600-630whp with the ID1000's and E85 from what I'm gathering so far. That works for me for now.
STL2SLW, hope you do not mind me posting your info. Martin, you should be able to make 600-630whp with the ID1000's and E85 from what I'm gathering so far. That works for me for now.
11-04-2009, 07:52 AM
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STL2SLW what kind of boost levels did it take to get those numbers? Did FB tune the car again? I saw your dyno with the UR log manifold. Honestly I am still shocked you pulled 49xwhp on only 19psi with a log manifold and a smaller turbo. All on e85 with a single pump. WOW!
11-04-2009, 09:35 AM
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I am so frustrated. I cannot find enough E85 stations in my area so that I can make the jump. I'm nowhere near your power levels but the idea of running much cooler is definitely inviting as I am trying to build a cool running and reliable track whore.
Man, these Injector Dynamics injectors are quite nice, aren't they? A 2000cc injector that idles well at less than 10% duty cycle? RC Engineering better get their act together cuz ID is here to stay!
Man, these Injector Dynamics injectors are quite nice, aren't they? A 2000cc injector that idles well at less than 10% duty cycle? RC Engineering better get their act together cuz ID is here to stay!
11-04-2009, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CourageOO7,Nov 4 2009, 02:36 PM
Hell, my 750cc RC injectors bump a bit at idle.
11-04-2009, 09:55 AM
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11-04-2009, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by STL2SLW,Nov 4 2009, 03:21 AM
Hey man its not a problem. Im also running 90ish psi fuel pressure.
11-04-2009, 02:46 PM
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4 1000cc injectors running e85 would be good for around 500 at the wheels.
On 93 they should make about 660 maxed out, so since e85 takes about 25-30% more volume than gas that brings you to around 500.
and wow that integra. That thing is idling rich as hell and definitely needs new motor mounts hahaha
On 93 they should make about 660 maxed out, so since e85 takes about 25-30% more volume than gas that brings you to around 500.
and wow that integra. That thing is idling rich as hell and definitely needs new motor mounts hahaha
11-04-2009, 03:13 PM
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That would be true with the 1000cc injectors and e85 if you didn't have a twin fuel system. But with a twin fuel system, you can turn the fuel pressure way up to get a lot more out of the 1000's. 600 whp on e85 is very capable if you turn the fuel pressure up.
11-04-2009, 04:33 PM
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just to give you guys an idea on how much extra fuel e85 takes.. my S has an intake and aem ems.. on gas my injectors see max duty of ~70%, i switched to e85 last week, i hit 100% at 8700rpms.
not only does it take an extra 30% to make the same AFR at the same power, but max power (rich) is achieved at around .71 lambda for e85, while max power (rich) for gas (12.5:1 AFR) is .85 lambda.
so to get .85lambda with e85 it takes about 25-30% more fuel than with gas, but to get down to .71 lambda it takes another 14%.
that ends up being ALOT.
not only does it take an extra 30% to make the same AFR at the same power, but max power (rich) is achieved at around .71 lambda for e85, while max power (rich) for gas (12.5:1 AFR) is .85 lambda.
so to get .85lambda with e85 it takes about 25-30% more fuel than with gas, but to get down to .71 lambda it takes another 14%.
that ends up being ALOT.