What happened to Stage 1 turbo kits?
#1
What happened to Stage 1 turbo kits?
It seems as if companies such as FullBlown and InlinePro only offer Stage 2 turbo kits these days. Why?
Prices on stage 2 turbo kits are generally $6k and up. What about entry level stage 1 turbo kits that are normally $3k range?
I am just tempted to do an ebay turbo build....
Prices on stage 2 turbo kits are generally $6k and up. What about entry level stage 1 turbo kits that are normally $3k range?
I am just tempted to do an ebay turbo build....
#2
It seems as if companies such as FullBlown and InlinePro only offer Stage 2 turbo kits these days. Why?
Prices on stage 2 turbo kits are generally $6k and up. What about entry level stage 1 turbo kits that are normally $3k range?
I am just tempted to do an ebay turbo build....
Prices on stage 2 turbo kits are generally $6k and up. What about entry level stage 1 turbo kits that are normally $3k range?
I am just tempted to do an ebay turbo build....
thanks
#5
Its the nature of turbo's. What makes a stage 1 from a 2 in the supercharger world is the rising rate fuel pressure regulator that delivers enough fuel with the stock injectors and no engine management tuning needed. This is possible because of the nature of how superchargers build boost which is very little down low where the factory timing advance can cope without detonation and its also linear and tied directing to a belt and engine rpm, so its very consistent making reliability feasible. Trying to do this with a turbo with how and where it makes boost doesn't boast well for reliability and the 100% bolt in weekend home mechanics success. Its simply too risky for companies to do. But ive seen no name ebay companies try and put together turbo kits with a rrfpr, and I would sooner run a big hit of nitrous through this motor for reliability. Greddy was the closest thing, and even with their piggy back ems you had to have someone extremely knowledgeable/experience tune it, so from a market standpoint it just doesn't make sense to have a small boost stage one system, when all the same equipment and process is required in the higher boost stage 2 systems. Why would you spend 5k on 6psi/270whp when you can just as safely run 10psi/370whp for the same money.
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#7
Stage 1 turbo kits don’t make any sense. The only real difference is a log manifold vs a tubular manifold with a proper merge collector. A log manifold will hold you back easily 50-100whp on straight pump 91/93 octane fuel. There’s probably a $500-1000 reduction in cost in comparing manifolds. Not worth it in my opinion since these motors top end power get chocked up so badely with a log manifold.
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#8
A stage 3 from X company could be a stage 5 from Z company, nominclature of parts kits is not something I would get too hung up on. Set out your goals + budget and you'll find the right setup.
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Stage 1 turbo kits don’t make any sense. The only real difference is a log manifold vs a tubular manifold with a proper merge collector. A log manifold will hold you back easily 50-100whp on straight pump 91/93 octane fuel. There’s probably a $500-1000 reduction in cost in comparing manifolds. Not worth it in my opinion since these motors top end power get chocked up so badely with a log manifold.
THIS. THIS X100! stage 1 is a waste.
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