Help identifying headers on the car I just bought
11-04-2012, 02:23 PM
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11-04-2012, 07:48 PM
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Now not sure if MINE is PLM or knockoff, lol. Been a while since I installed it, maybe I just overlooked/forgot mine had a logo.
11-05-2012, 03:15 AM
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11-05-2012, 11:37 AM
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This isn't in response to S2klean in particular, just the idea in general: why go through the trouble of buying/installing the heavier OEM header unless there is a known problem with the one on the car? It seems unnecessary.
11-05-2012, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by it'S2klean' timestamp='1352009114' post='22128410
Its an ebay one, like liquid said, get a OEM one, Theres been lots of disputes on wether headers are worth it or not, i now a few people actually LOST power, and some consider it more of "weight mod" than a power mod.
But i have an ebay one, and im going back to my OEM one. It has GREAT reliability and capability, i have seen PLM headers loose power, i have even seen some of those "JDM" headers loosing power too!
It all depends on your supporting mods, and tune, for my pretty basic N/A build, (intake headers exhaust test pipe, throttle body etc etc. OEM is totally fine)
Now if your doing, springs and valves, pistons and rods, Cams and crank, ITB's etc... You probably want an aftermarket because thats when its gunna pay off the most. But all i know is im going back to the OEM ones as i tuned against an Ap1 (me buying an ap2) with the exhaust same mods, CAI, Test pipe, he had a dual, i had a single, he had oem header, i had "aftermarket" and he actually made more power than me! Same day! Same tuner!
And ap2's usually put down slightly stronger numbers! It was only a few horsepower different, but im convinced between maybe the shape the spark plugs were in, even though i changed it two weeks earlier and and oil change as well... I still think the flaw was the header...
Like all parts, theres alot of skepticism on them and mixed reviews. BUt luckily this isnt so much a thread on "is it worth it or what do i get" its just identifying
I would also like to point out, i am not engine builder, tuner, or tester, this is the information that i believe and have developed by listening to other members, tuners, and reading across the board. There will be those who strongly agree, and those who dont.
In my case, thats what i believe
11-06-2012, 01:02 PM
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A header is really only going to give you a gain with a tune and even then it's a small gain and it usually takes power from someplace else. I like my plm tha is to the weight savings and I got it used for a really good price.
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