Make 04 AP2 a bit more tail happy
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Go square and FSB.
Recommendation for RSB is if you do nothing else.
Something else that also makes a BIG difference is alignment. If you're completely stock everything, max out your front camber, which will probably be around -1.5 to -1.8 on stock adjusters and height. Rear camber, match the front.
Front Toe should be 0.
Rear Toe should be somewhere around 0.10 to 0.20 degrees total, less toe for better turn-in and tail happiness.
Ideally for summer tires and auto-x/track driving, you'll want to get at least -3.5 to -3.0 Front camber. Rear camber should be dialed down to around 03. to 0.5 degrees less than the front (more front camber than rear camber - always). You'll need some sort of offset bushings, camber ball joints, or upper control arm changes to get -3.0 up front.
Recommendation for RSB is if you do nothing else.
Something else that also makes a BIG difference is alignment. If you're completely stock everything, max out your front camber, which will probably be around -1.5 to -1.8 on stock adjusters and height. Rear camber, match the front.
Front Toe should be 0.
Rear Toe should be somewhere around 0.10 to 0.20 degrees total, less toe for better turn-in and tail happiness.
Ideally for summer tires and auto-x/track driving, you'll want to get at least -3.5 to -3.0 Front camber. Rear camber should be dialed down to around 03. to 0.5 degrees less than the front (more front camber than rear camber - always). You'll need some sort of offset bushings, camber ball joints, or upper control arm changes to get -3.0 up front.
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Go square and FSB.
Recommendation for RSB is if you do nothing else.
Something else that also makes a BIG difference is alignment. If you're completely stock everything, max out your front camber, which will probably be around -1.5 to -1.8 on stock adjusters and height. Rear camber, match the front.
Front Toe should be 0.
Rear Toe should be somewhere around 0.10 to 0.20 degrees total, less toe for better turn-in and tail happiness.
Ideally for summer tires and auto-x/track driving, you'll want to get at least -3.5 to -3.0 Front camber. Rear camber should be dialed down to around 03. to 0.5 degrees less than the front (more front camber than rear camber - always). You'll need some sort of offset bushings, camber ball joints, or upper control arm changes to get -3.0 up front.
Recommendation for RSB is if you do nothing else.
Something else that also makes a BIG difference is alignment. If you're completely stock everything, max out your front camber, which will probably be around -1.5 to -1.8 on stock adjusters and height. Rear camber, match the front.
Front Toe should be 0.
Rear Toe should be somewhere around 0.10 to 0.20 degrees total, less toe for better turn-in and tail happiness.
Ideally for summer tires and auto-x/track driving, you'll want to get at least -3.5 to -3.0 Front camber. Rear camber should be dialed down to around 03. to 0.5 degrees less than the front (more front camber than rear camber - always). You'll need some sort of offset bushings, camber ball joints, or upper control arm changes to get -3.0 up front.
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Go square and FSB.
Recommendation for RSB is if you do nothing else.
Something else that also makes a BIG difference is alignment. If you're completely stock everything, max out your front camber, which will probably be around -1.5 to -1.8 on stock adjusters and height. Rear camber, match the front.
Front Toe should be 0.
Rear Toe should be somewhere around 0.10 to 0.20 degrees total, less toe for better turn-in and tail happiness.
Ideally for summer tires and auto-x/track driving, you'll want to get at least -3.5 to -3.0 Front camber. Rear camber should be dialed down to around 03. to 0.5 degrees less than the front (more front camber than rear camber - always). You'll need some sort of offset bushings, camber ball joints, or upper control arm changes to get -3.0 up front.
Recommendation for RSB is if you do nothing else.
Something else that also makes a BIG difference is alignment. If you're completely stock everything, max out your front camber, which will probably be around -1.5 to -1.8 on stock adjusters and height. Rear camber, match the front.
Front Toe should be 0.
Rear Toe should be somewhere around 0.10 to 0.20 degrees total, less toe for better turn-in and tail happiness.
Ideally for summer tires and auto-x/track driving, you'll want to get at least -3.5 to -3.0 Front camber. Rear camber should be dialed down to around 03. to 0.5 degrees less than the front (more front camber than rear camber - always). You'll need some sort of offset bushings, camber ball joints, or upper control arm changes to get -3.0 up front.
For his use case, his desire for more rear bias, this seems like exact opposite of what would achieve his goals
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A few minutes ago @ragtophardtop wants less tail happy performance. He's on a modified Ohlins suspension but there's a solution between the lines of his note. Contact him here so we can all learn.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-br...hlins-1222915/
-- Chuck
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-br...hlins-1222915/
-- Chuck
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The common advice for pur cars of wider front tires, and a front swaybar, is good practice for track. Also good for people that learned to drive on fwd, more comfortable w understeer.
But the op said he wants less understeer. Wants more lively feel. Does autox, but not track.
Recipe for that is not the common front swaybar and wider front.
