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Old 06-17-2019, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
No, ideally you put the injectors in at the tuner instead of risk fuel washing your engine because your too cheap or lazy to do it right!
Have you ever washed out a cylinder? Do you know how much fuel is needed and the run time running super rich to do that on an engine that has good sealing rings? Yielding on the side of caution is good. Sometimes you gotta do what the original poster is doing and he's going to be completely fine.
Old 06-26-2019, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by xBoostx
Have you ever washed out a cylinder? Do you know how much fuel is needed and the run time running super rich to do that on an engine that has good sealing rings? Yielding on the side of caution is good. Sometimes you gotta do what the original poster is doing and he's going to be completely fine.
I'm curious: how much fuel exactly would it take to actually wash out a cylinder?
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Originally Posted by RolanTHUNDER
I'm curious: how much fuel exactly would it take to actually wash out a cylinder?
Not much at all. Gas is a solvent and eats the very thin film of oil between the rings and cylinder walls. Any amount of fluid that is left behind from not combusting can cuase scoring to the cylinder. Ive unfortunetly experienced this more then once on this engine from bad coil pack on enfine break in to poor engine mangement fuel delivery. Putting a larger then factory injector in each cylinder with a factory ecu fuel map ls taking unecisay risk. In my experience the short and long term fuel trims cant cope with a bigger then stock 360cc injector. But my experience was with 440cc, not 410cc. Play at your own risk. E85 also has a much llwer flash point then refular gas (which is what makes it so good for controling detonation for big power) but that also means at low engine duty its arguably more prone for fuel washing/over saturation without proper ecu management.

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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Not much at all. Gas is a solvent and eats the very thin film of oil between the rings and cylinder walls. Any amount of fluid that is left behind from not combusting can cuase scoring to the cylinder. Ive unfortunetly experienced this more then once on this engine from bad coil pack on enfine break in to poor engine mangement fuel delivery. Putting a larger then factory injector in each cylinder with a factory ecu fuel map ls taking unecisay risk. In my experience the short and long term fuel trims cant cope with a bigger then stock 360cc injector. But my experience was with 440cc, not 410cc. Play at your own risk. E85 also has a much llwer flash point then refular gas (which is what makes it so good for controling detonation for big power) but that also means at low engine duty its arguably more prone for fuel washing/over saturation without proper ecu management.
Definitely a dangerous game to be playing knowingly or unknowingly. How did you discover that your cylinders were getting washed out? Symptoms, etc?
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Originally Posted by RolanTHUNDER
Definitely a dangerous game to be playing knowingly or unknowingly. How did you discover that your cylinders were getting washed out? Symptoms, etc?
When it was too late and the engine started smoking using excessive oil. Found cylinders scored.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
When it was too late and the engine started smoking using excessive oil. Found cylinders scored.
Shit! Was this before or after you were supercharged?
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Originally Posted by RolanTHUNDER
Shit! Was this before or after you were supercharged?
One engine was supercharged and one built na waiting for the supercharger to go on after break in.
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
One engine was supercharged and one built na waiting for the supercharger to go on after break in.
I see.
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225 hp 146tq at the wheels mustang dyno ,tuner said torque was low cause he need a new fuel pump or sock
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I ran my 2.4 stroked S off of the stock ecu with RDX 410cc injectors, it ran...….ok, just good enough for me to putz around and get the readiness monitors set so I could pass NJ emissions inspection. I drove it for about 50 miles. Never reving high and always on light accel. AFR was a almost perfect believe it or not. My guess on a stock block it would run rich and eventually set a rich code (p0172)


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