NGK Iridium IX BKR8EIX 2668 - power down?
#21
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Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,Apr 13 2010, 05:53 AM
What plugs did you swap in?
Andre
Andre
I am a little nervous about trying to gap the colder ones to give them another go so I'll probably leave these in
#22
Originally Posted by JuicedS2K,Apr 15 2010, 03:22 PM
My ap2 blew up out of no where when i ran 1 step colder plugs...
Just playing, i run heat range 8 (1 step colder) all year and im N/A.
Just playing, i run heat range 8 (1 step colder) all year and im N/A.
#24
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if your car dosnt run right b/c of a change of one step then you either have other issues or you got a bad plug from the get go.
up or down one heat range will not change anything as far as idle/drivability goes unless the plugs are so cold they foul out very quickly and one step colder is unlikely to cause that
up or down one heat range will not change anything as far as idle/drivability goes unless the plugs are so cold they foul out very quickly and one step colder is unlikely to cause that
#25
ignition advance settings being equal, taking heat out of the combustion chamber will reduce power. Heat = power as long as you don't get detonation. It's hard to generalize though unless you know exactly what is going on within the engine. If you remove heat and you get more ignition timing you can make more power. If you remove heat and ignition timing stays the same you will likley lose power. There is a chance that colder plugs can foul easier. I wouldn't bother going colder unless I could do some datalogging to really know what is happening, some dyno testing would help in conjunction with DL.
#26
Originally Posted by JFUSION,Apr 23 2010, 07:25 PM
ignition advance settings being equal, taking heat out of the combustion chamber will reduce power. Heat = power as long as you don't get detonation. It's hard to generalize though unless you know exactly what is going on within the engine. If you remove heat and you get more ignition timing you can make more power. If you remove heat and ignition timing stays the same you will likley lose power. There is a chance that colder plugs can foul easier. I wouldn't bother going colder unless I could do some datalogging to really know what is happening, some dyno testing would help in conjunction with DL.
I agree that pulling more heat from the combustion reduces power, but I find it hard to believe that much heat is extracted by the spark plug's electrode in comparison to the cylinder walls. That's why I replaced my stock thermostat with a hotter version.
#27
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colder plugs dont do alot to take heat away from the combustion chamber, they transfer the heat from the PLUG to the head faster.
IE. the PLUG stays cooler, not the chamber.
its easy to read the heat on a spark plug, so instead of guessing, try a couple of different heat ranges, read the plugs and use what the engine tells you to run. 8's were perfect on my motor.
IE. the PLUG stays cooler, not the chamber.
its easy to read the heat on a spark plug, so instead of guessing, try a couple of different heat ranges, read the plugs and use what the engine tells you to run. 8's were perfect on my motor.
#28
Originally Posted by allmotorslut,Apr 19 2010, 10:17 AM
You're not N/A, you run nitrous lol But do you use theses plug with your nitrous?
#29
Originally Posted by gernby,Apr 23 2010, 06:16 PM
If you study datalogs of stock S2000s with stock plugs, you'd see that the ECU is pulling lots of timing all the time. My brother's stock '06 S2000 runs between 4-9 degrees of knock retard across the whole RPM range. My '08 runs several degrees less knock retard with the colder plugs.
I agree that pulling more heat from the combustion reduces power, but I find it hard to believe that much heat is extracted by the spark plug's electrode in comparison to the cylinder walls. That's why I replaced my stock thermostat with a hotter version.
I agree that pulling more heat from the combustion reduces power, but I find it hard to believe that much heat is extracted by the spark plug's electrode in comparison to the cylinder walls. That's why I replaced my stock thermostat with a hotter version.
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